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Phillies fans are not "persecuted." I think you're envious of teams like the Yankees and Red Sox, that have a lot of exposure and "hatred" against them.
Philadelphia fans (this includes the Eagles, 76ers, and Flyers) are, however, KNOWN for being intense fans, but also quick to turn on their own teams and players at the drop of a hat, and for throwing things onto the field.
But they're not "persecuted" and nobody hates the Phillies. Again, do the Phillies even have a rival team?
The Phillies main rivals are the Philadelphis sportswriters.
honestly, i really hope the rays lose. and it has nothing to do with the series overall. But I still want the Phils to win, of course.
The fan support sucked in Tampa throughout the season, and the only reason they have sellouts is because the fans show up now in the playoffs, just like the Marlins.
Next year will be the acid test for Tampa fans, or the jackacid test as the case may be. If they're not averaging 30k+ in attendance next year, with the players they have, they oughta move the franchise. (How about Raleigh? :D )
I'm rooting for the Rays to win because I like the way their team has been put together, but I've noticed that the bandwagon has gotten very crowded the past few weeks.
they wont have anywhere close to 30,000 ... if they average around 25,000- 27,000 they will be happy... its not going to go crazy in 1 year. Heck this year it jumped 5,100 over last year (17,148 to 22,259)
If i'm them, of course I want a packed house every night, but I'd be happy around 25,000. in 2 years that would be like 35-40% increase
T.b.
Rays win it. Phillies are good, but I see Howard committing an error every game. Well, maybe not that bad.
Should be a fun series - both teams have weaknesses, but great players.
I do hope this translates into Rays fandom spreading - I've been going to the trop for 3 years now, and fans were finally starting to come to games a little this year. Seeing the upper deck filled during the ALCS was amazing. I like my Red Sox, but Rays are in my top 5 favorite teams.
Th eproblem is peopl will expect the stands to be full now at 30,000+. its not going to heppen... This is the 1st year. I want to see next year 25,000. The fans will come next year jsut give them a few years before you think they are going to draw great #'s. They contend for the title again next year.. watch how fast the 2010 tickets sell
It is really sad how they have sections of seats roped off and covered in Tampa Bay. It is just a transient state. I do not see them drawing more than they do now. They are rhe AL Marlins. They will win, sell off their players to the highest bidder and rebuild.
At least Peter Gammons has given the Phillies the respect they deserve. Just about all of the national sportswriters are picking TB to win it. Ugh! Some to have TB sweep the Phils. What a slap in the face. I guess they want the "feel good" story. Well, I hope they don't mind writing about the Phillies when they win it on 6 games.
GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!!