hey I picked them to win 85 games :P never thought they would get to the playoffs tho lol or at the alcs and maybe the series
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7 years ago everyone said I was a front runner because I'm a braves fan (in CT). i still back them... even tho we have had 3 not so great years...
No I didn't suffer for 86 years but who cares... in 10 years if/when they suck if her still roots for them, you all have to eat crow.
thats because some of us feel as tho you guys are friends/family.
BOSTON!!!! Dickay, u wait and see, we won last night, and WE WILL WIN IT ALL!!!!!
Not happening... Rays will win tomorrow and you guys will be done... if you get the incredible luck to make it to the World Series you will get crushed by Philadelphia.
And the thing that annoys me about Red Sox fans is that they are fair-weather fans... before 2004 not many people were showing up and now everyone seems to be a Sox fan... they're really the only team that does that (besides the Yankees,of course :D)
I highly doubt they'd be crushed by Philadelphia. I give the huge edge to either AL team.
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before 2004 not many people were showing up
No, every team does it to an extent. Winning team = more fans.Quote:
they're really the only team that does that (besides the Yankees,of course :D)
they have been showing since 1998 or so not since 2004
and the yanks had NOONE in the stand in the 80's early 90's too. NO team draws when the team sux. you watch... Mil puts a few good years together and they will start to draw more, same wih tampa. KC if they were not so missmanaged woudl draw as well.
NYM
1992 Attendance: 1,779,534 (8th of 12)
1993 Attendance: 1,873,183 (11th of 14)
1995 Atendance: 1,273,183 (11th of 14)
1996 Attendance: 1,588,323 (12th of 14)
1997 Attendance: 1,766,174 (10th of 14)
On ONE draws when you stink
1985 Attendance: 1,786,633 (7th of 14)
thats the last time the sox were under 2 million in attendance :p
i dont think 1992 when they were in last place they were fair weather fans :p
Code:2008 AL East 95-67 (.586) 2 Terry Francona Youkilis Matsuzaka 2008
2007 AL East 96-66 (.593) WS 1 Terry Francona Ortiz Beckett 2007
2006 AL East 86-76 (.531) 3 Terry Francona Ramirez Schilling 2006
2005 AL East 95-67 (.586) WC 2 Terry Francona Ortiz Wakefield 2005
2004 AL East 98-64 (.605) WS 2 Terry Francona Ramirez Schilling 2004
2003 AL East 95-67 (.586) WC 2 Grady Little Ramirez Martinez 2003
2002 AL East 93-69 (.574) 2 Grady Little Ramirez Martinez 2002
2001 AL East 82-79 (.509) 2 Jimy Williams and Joe Kerrigan Ramirez Wakefield 2001
2000 AL East 85-77 (.525) 2 Jimy Williams Garciaparra Martinez 2000
1999 AL East 94-68 (.580) WC 2 Jimy Williams Garciaparra Martinez 1999
1998 AL East 92-70 (.568) WC 2 Jimy Williams Vaughn Martinez 1998
1997 AL East 78-84 (.481) 4 Jimy Williams Vaughn Gordon 1997
1996 AL East 85-77 (.525) 3 Kevin Kennedy Vaughn Clemens 1996
1995 AL East 86-58 (.597) DIV 1 Kevin Kennedy Vaughn Wakefield 1995
1994 AL East 54-61 (.470) 4 Butch Hobson Vaughn Clemens 1994
1993 AL East 80-82 (.494) 5 Butch Hobson Vaughn Viola 1993
1992 AL East 73-89 (.451) 7 Butch Hobson Brunansky Clemens 1992
1991 AL East 84-78 (.519) 2 Joe Morgan Boggs Clemens 1991
1990 AL East 88-74 (.543) DIV 1 Joe Morgan Burks Clemens 1990
1989 AL East 83-79 (.512) 3 Joe Morgan Boggs Clemens 1989
1988 AL East 89-73 (.549) DIV 1 John McNamara and Joe Morgan Boggs Clemens 1988
1987 AL East 78-84 (.481) 5 John McNamara Boggs Clemens 1987
1986 AL East 95-66 (.590) AL 1 John McNamara Boggs Clemens 1986
1985 AL East 81-81 (.500) 5 John McNamara Boggs Boyd 1985
Royals fans are just as passionate about our team. The difference is we don't constantly whine to anyone who will listen. For EVERY SINGLE SEASON before their WS win in 2004, BoSox fans were the whiniest bunch imaginable....you would think that would change with their recent success, but it hasn't. BoSox fans have been whining a lot as soon as they fell behind this series. Again, there is a difference between cheering for a win and being upset about a loss and constant whining. Boston and Yankee fans are just constantly whining about everything if every little thing doesn't go their way.
hahahahaahaha, even better.
I'm from CT. and here in the northeast I honestly have not seen 'a ton' of new red sox fans after 04'. Most of the area already was avid sox fans prior to. I suppose maybe they did pop up elsewhere around the country, can't say for sure personally. Like its a big mystery though, teams do well....they draw fans.
People who get upset at this kind of thing are just pessimists. I'd say a very high percentage of people actually affiliate with teams who performed well during their youth or initial exposure to the team. The larger percentage probably get their allegiance through a family member yes, but a significant amount of sports fans in general drew their allegiance from a winning team. Even those who are Royals fans, surely many of them were probably living near the KC area but fell in love with them during their hey days and WS win in 85. In fact...i'd love to know how old cowboypooper is. I"m gonna venture he was born around the mid-70's. Just a hunch...i think he's a fair weather homer fan. ;) Metsguy, 13 years old...was what 5 or 6 when the Mets got to the series in 2000? Thats a bit young, probably some family interest that turned him onto the mets but their 00 performance may have played apart.
I was born in 84. Grew up near KC, been a diehard fan of the Royals since about 2000 probably....of course winning draws more fans, but this "Red Sox nation" crap is a lot more than just that. People living in Des Moines, Iowa all of a sudden being "huge BoSox fans" after throwing away their Braves hats is just pathetic.
lol thats just mean
the reason you hear complaints is because
A. they have WAY more fans, always have since 1901 as the americans (NOT the red stocking Beaneaters etc thats braves history, the oldest consective runing franchise IN MLB (take that cincy :p)
B. They are EXPECTED to win... Look at the $$$ they spend.
C. When was th last time KC was expected to even be decent... 1985???
D. People who dont like you alutomaticly become Red Sox fans because they know it annoys you:p
E. I am out of reason even the last one was REALLLY reaching in :p
even better
Code:1995 AL East 79-65 WC,2 Yankee Stadium II (ballparks) 1,705,263 23,521 7th of 14 30.9/28.1 99/98
1994 AL East 70-43 1 Yankee Stadium II (ballparks) 1,675,556 29,656 7th of 14 30.4/29.8 97/96
1993 AL East 88-74 2 Yankee Stadium II (ballparks) 2,416,942 29,839 5th of 14 29.7/28.9 97/96
1992 AL East 76-86 4 Yankee Stadium II (ballparks) 1,748,737 21,589 11th of 14 28.3/29.5 100/100
Ugh. I can't take it, anymore.
I love the people b!tching endlessly about all of the b!tching everyone else is doing.
Classic.
:rolleyes:
Really, we got it:
-- Not everyone roots for the teams you think they should root for, and they're dysfunctional or substandard fans for not doing so. Fine. Conceded.
-- Any fan who professes their love of a team and gets excited about their run of success is "pathetic", or "crap", or otherwise inappropriate or obnoxious. OK. Another point for you guys.
-- Any fan who expresses frustration at their own team's subpar performance or seeming bad luck is "whining" or "bit(hing". Great. You win.
Better?
Gads! Enough, already...
/patiently waiting, of course, for the obligatory "that's not what I said" replies/
;)
StreetMedic summed this up quite well.
I dont know about that, BorgH. Fan of my team...fan of the game....they run a close 1-2, or 2-1. I think that most fans follow their team and watch closely until their team is eliminated. Then, many abandon baseball for the remainder of that year. I know that, as a Boston fan, I follow just about every pitch of their postseason games. When they get eliminated, I normally dont care who wins.
Most years, if Boston isnt in the WS, I dont watch a lot of it, if any. Maybe if it gets to the 7'th game, I watch then. I am a hardcore baseball fan for over 30 years... so what does that say? I've always considered myself a Red Sox fan first. I think that these sentiments are quite representative of the majority of fans.
i have to agree with you....although I think the truly hardcore fans are the ones who actually do watch the games their 'team' isn't in. I'm not one of those...i will watch parts of the WS with no sox but definetly no wheres near what i would if the sox were i in.
agreed
On the fence on that one... I cheer for my braves yet I still watch most of the WS I dont care WHO is on... I'm watching the game, or listening to it on my XM radio ( you get "ever team, every game" lol like the ad says.) The only people I cant listen to on the radio are the tandem of Sterling and that woman anouncer with him... he is OK but she is unbearable
could NOT have said it betty myself.
Like the a-hole people that wear the off color hats of teams to match their outfit... I have seen a guy in an all red Cubs hat come to work the next day in blue with a yankee hat... WTF just wear the goddamned Cubs hat with the right. My favorite is that BS red sox St Patty's day green... WTF!!! How about the PINK YANKEES HAT!!!
God I hate people...
How do you wear a Phillies hat 1 day (because you have a shirt on close to that color) and a met hat the next because you need a blue hat to match your blue shirt and blue shoes... What is the world comming to
I don't think total attendance is a good way of judging fans interest, because not everyone has a 50000 or 60000 seat stadium. I would rather see the percentage of seats sold per game. Its not quite fair that team A has 60000 and sells only 42000 per game and team b has 40000 seats and sells out every game.
I don't care which teams are playing, I'll watch any ballgame
Same here.
I can honestly say that I am way more of a fan of baseball than I am a fan of any specific team. Sure, there's a team that I'd like to see win (Arizona), and when it comes to the playoffs, I tend to pick a team I'd like to see go all the way (Tampa this year), but I just love baseball, period.
I like to see teams with great fan bases win. Like Cleveland, Colorado or Baltimore in baseball.
Everyone gushes about the fanbases in Boston, New York, and Chicago but lest we forget Cleveland went for years selling out Jacobs Field (43,000), The first two seasons I belive the Rockies where in Denver they sold out Mile High stadium almost every game which is exceptional considering how bad they were, and the Orioles sold out Camden Yards for years with lackluster teams.
I'm really hoping Tampa doesn't get into the world series, not only because i'm a fan of Boston but because their fans are quite honestly terrible. And i'm not buying the it's because they've been bad for so long argument either. The rockies packed the house every night when they were just as bad as Tampa, Cleveland went decades of being mediocre and their fans still loved them, and same with Baltimore to a lesser extent.
Why is this BS?? Its an actual Jersey the sox where in game quite a few times throughout the year. I have a green sox hat, I just think its awesome. I don't specifically get a whole green outfit together so I can wear it, that would be corny.Quote:
My favorite is that BS red sox St Patty's day green... WTF!!!
I don't like all the pinks, and striped, and weird hats either, but i'm not totally against them. A hot chick looks great in a pink sox shirt & hat, especially if its long and there's no panties underneath. Trust me on that one if you haven't seen it yet. ;)
People become fans of teams for many reasons, and locality is only sometimes the reason. I've liked Arizona for as long as I can remember, starting with the 2001 playoffs when I was rooting for them and jumped off the top of my bunk bed when Luis Gonzalez blooped that ball into short center field. And honestly, I wouldn't really call myself a "fan" of them, either. I don't have any emotional attachment to them whatsoever, as most fans do. I just think that they're a really well-run club, and I want to see them win.
no. I picked the bravs when I ws young because I liked their uniforms. thats it... no big story about 1st game... or meeting someone... or anything cool... I like the uniforms. The fact aht they were good helped a TON.
You see when a team is good you DO get a TON of young fans to liek them... those are not fair weather fans... it's certainly not their fault the team whas good when they started watching. Its the people who dont show support when they are NOT good that are that "bad apples" For example. Braves were NOT good all year... I still proudly wore my braves cap and my braves t-shirts. Now if I put them away until next year... thats a fair weather fan