Braves Could Land Peavy

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10-19-2008, 04:33 PM
HoustonGM

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

The Astros have a snowball's chance in hell. They have no farm system.
10-20-2008, 01:12 AM
FRENCHREDSOX

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Peavy has stated that he doesn't want to go to an AL team, and he has the no-trade clause, so, it's up to him, really.

Yes Peavy has full no trade & YES he has a "preference for the NL" but he also wants (IMO) to win a WS &/or be on a perennial Playoff team & the 4 AL East teams fill that Criteria.

Just a hypo example of what I am concluding - would he sign for the Giants or the Red Sox ? See what I mean ....
10-20-2008, 01:27 AM
Jeffy25

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

I say St. Louis should offer Rasmus, Wallace or Freese, Mather, Adam Kennedy and a top pitching prospect for Greene and Peavy

Cards need both a shortstop and another steady arm.

Peavy said St. Louis was a possibility (apparently)

San Diego wants to part with Greene

There is no room for Rasmus really

This provides plenty of depth and a good fit for San Diego, and they don't have much of a future at third right now or in center, Wallace and Rasmus both offer that.
10-20-2008, 01:33 AM
BINGLEBOP

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I say St. Louis should offer Rasmus, Wallace or Freese, Mather, Adam Kennedy and a top pitching prospect for Greene and Peavy

I think that would barely be enough to acquire Peavy alone.
10-20-2008, 01:34 AM
HoustonGM

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

The Padres are also looking for pitching as their main priority in any trade for Peavy.
10-20-2008, 01:36 AM
Jeffy25

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

I would be willing to part w Brad Thompson, Adam Ottavino and Jason Motte to complete it
10-20-2008, 01:40 AM
FRENCHREDSOX

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I say St. Louis should offer Rasmus, Wallace or Freese, Mather, Adam Kennedy and a top pitching prospect for Greene and Peavy

Cards need both a shortstop and another steady arm.

Peavy said St. Louis was a possibility (apparently)

San Diego wants to part with Greene

There is no room for Rasmus really

This provides plenty of depth and a good fit for San Diego, and they don't have much of a future at third right now or in center, Wallace and Rasmus both offer that.

First off WALLACE cannot be traded as he is a 2008 draftee (1 year no trade rule) .Rasmus is St Louis' CF of the future (even maybe by 2009 with Ankiel moving to LF) & well the rest are C+ prospects at best & NO WAY will the Friars take KENNEDY who is 2/3 years past his "sell by date".

In essence that deal just is too too LOW compared to other systems.;)

You need to look at WHAT the Friars need FOR A TRADE to work & that is :

1° Cheap MLB ready SPs eg Bucholz/Price/Hughes level
2° SS/2B with UPSIDE eg Brignac/Lowrie/
3° OF with UPSIDE - CF if possible - Rasmus/Heyward/Ellsbury/Snider

Cardinals ONLY have 1 of those "need" fillers in Rasmus BUT they have no upside SPs unless they would be willing to deal Wainwright + Garcia/Mortensen & Perez .Even then they would be offering less than the Rays deal outlined above .
10-20-2008, 01:40 AM
BINGLEBOP

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

The Padres are also looking for pitching as their main priority in any trade for Peavy.

Yeah, and San Diego would want players to expedite their rebuilding process. Unless a package blows Kevin Towers away, they don't HAVE to trade Peavy. He's under contract for the next FOUR YEARS (five if they pick up the 2013 option) at an average annual salary of $15.75 million. That alone drives the asking price way, way, WAY up, especially since he's already signed for less money than C.C. Sabathia is going to get.
10-20-2008, 01:41 AM
Jeffy25

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

I doubt Peavy would agree to go to Tampa
10-20-2008, 01:41 AM
FRENCHREDSOX

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I would be willing to part w Brad Thompson, Adam Ottavino and Jason Motte to complete it

LOL they're C prospects at BEST ! :D:D:D
10-20-2008, 01:44 AM
BINGLEBOP

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by FRENCHREDSOX

LOL they're C prospects at BEST ! :D:D:D

Exactly! That's the type of trade that would get you the "I just figured out something. You're clinically insane, aren't you?" response.
10-20-2008, 01:45 AM
FRENCHREDSOX

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP

Yeah, and San Diego would want players to expedite their rebuilding process. Unless a package blows Kevin Towers away, they don't HAVE to trade Peavy. He's under contract for the next FOUR YEARS (five if they pick up the 2013 option) at an average annual salary of $15.75 million. That alone drives the asking price way, way, WAY up, especially since he's already signed for less money than C.C. Sabathia is going to get.

There is a "catch" though.It isn't CERTAIN you get to keep Peavy 4/5 years.He will have the right after the 09 season to "opt out" of the contract & test the FA market IF HE WANTS,due to being traded in the midst of a multi-year contract (don(t know his agent but if it is the Hendricks Bros or Boras I would be pushing him to GO ANYWHERE for 1 season ;) ).

So he has a Second great "leverage" position which he could use to re-negotiate his "club" friendly deal into a more real market price.
10-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Jeffy25

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

I am assuming that Peavy will only agree to be traded knowing that his final option year would be picked up before the trade.

Well then what do you guys think St. Louis would have to offer to get Greene and Peavy?

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Originally Posted by FRENCHREDSOX

There is a "catch" though.It isn't CERTAIN you get to keep Peavy 4/5 years.He will have the right after the 09 season to "opt out" of the contract & test the FA market IF HE WANTS.

So he has a Second great "leverage" position which he could use to re-negotiate his "club" friendly deal into a more real market price.
10-20-2008, 01:49 AM
BINGLEBOP

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

Well then what do you guys think St. Louis would have to offer to get Greene and Peavy?

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I say St. Louis should offer Rasmus, Wallace or Freese, Mather, Adam Kennedy and a top pitching prospect for Greene and Peavy

Well, that's a good start, although the Padres would probably want young pitching as the highlight of the package. No matter what, if a team wants Peavy, they're going to have to take a hit to their farm system.
10-20-2008, 01:50 AM
FRENCHREDSOX

Re: Braves Could Land Peavy

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I am assuming that Peavy will only agree to be traded knowing that his final option year would be picked up before the trade.

Actually THAT final year he DOES NOT WANT to be picked up LOL - even at today's market it is like 5 million below his value & that is for an option 4 year +!

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

Well then what do you guys think St. Louis would have to offer to get Greene and Peavy?

The WHOLE Farm + Wainwright :eek:

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