Funny, I think any real MMA fan knows Kimbo was all hype with no substance. the Sydd Finch of MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Mirko was a bigger bust than Kimbo.
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Funny, I think any real MMA fan knows Kimbo was all hype with no substance. the Sydd Finch of MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Mirko was a bigger bust than Kimbo.
I considered Blackledge as well. Drafted ahead of 3-4 better QB's, including Kelly and Marino, as previously noted.
Willy DeWitt, a Canadian boxer of the 'Eighties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_DeWitt
If we're talking about fighters/boxers/etc., would Tyson qualify? He was great for a while, and then it just all went downhill.
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Originally Posted by etothep
I don't think either belong in the discussion. A bust is someone who had a chance, and failed. Neither Williams or Bias had a chance. If you're going to include them, then you have to include Ernie Davis, too, and that's just wrong.
Someone who should be in the discussion, though, is Todd Marinovich.
I don't believe anyone mentioned Steve Emtman or Quentin Coryatt... the first TWO picks in the '92 draft, both taken by the Colts. Although that draft class was largely unimpressive, burning the top 2 picks in the entire draft on 2 guys you expect to plug into your front 7 and give you a solid defense for years to come... where Emtman ended up almost perpetually injured and ineffective, and Coryatt was entirely average... that's a pretty huge double-bust, I think. And the Colts went on to continue being perennial garbage until Peyton came along.
No one has mentioned David Clyde yet --- one of the biggest MLB Busts.
And a few #1 NFL piks from the last 20 years ... Alex Smith, Tim Couch, Ki-Jana Carter and Jeff George.
Carter... yeah, that was a MASSIVE bust.Quote:
Originally Posted by gRYFYN1
Jeff George didn't live up to the potential he was supposed to have, but he went on to have a somewhat solid journeyman career, with a few pretty good seasons. He was always great with the physical tools. Not so much a bust as a guy who didn't become an all-time great.
Smith isn't a bust quite yet, I don't think. But if he doesn't breakout next season, when he comes back from this injury, then he'd definitely qualify as a bust.
I kinda feel bad for the guy. He's had three or so offensive coordinators since getting drafted, and he did show promise a couple years ago when he had Norv Turner as an OC. He's probably doomed to fail if his OC is going to be Martz though, because Smith doesn't have the strongest arm and Martz is well-known for his pass-happy, deep ball oriented offense.
Andre Ware
David Klinger
Akili Smith
Mike Williams (Take your pick Tackle from Texas or Wide Receiver from USC)
Mike Vick (If he isn't able to come back and play, he may be the biggest waste of talent ever)
The more I think about it, the more I come around to the thought that Jay Williams wasn't really a bust, just unlucky and unfortunate.
May be a bit too early to call him a bust, but Adam Morrison is venturing that way. I never thought he'd pan out to begin with.
I'd say too early. One season isn't enough and he had a tough break last year injuring his knee. Maybe if he shaves off his sorry excuse for a mustache he will get better.
It probably is, but he never seemed like a guy that would have extraordinary success at the NBA level to me anyways. He can probably be a solid, 3-point specialist, off-the-bench guy, but I don't think he'll be a superstar in the league. But like you said, its too early to tell, maybe he'll be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVEN11323
The name that comes to mind for me is Yinka Dare, a Nigerian player for GW who got drafted first round by the Nets for a huge sum of money. Only played like 12 games with them; ended up later setting a record for most minutes played in a row without an assist. Talk about a guy who simply could not transition to the pro game...