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Of course, when you have the benefit of hindsight, you can say what "should have been done."
Also, I like #1. "Stay healthy" as if the Yankees have some real control over that. :rolleyes:
Oh, and yes, of course, they should've gotten rid of their best player.
And how exactly would they have traded for Johan Santana AND C.C. or Harden AND Bay or Ramirez?
This list is a joke.
lol:)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Well the EASIEST way to keep players healthy is to not play them so there would be nos risk of injury (unless ofcourse you are called David Wells & then you would have to add in a no bar/drinking rule)...do you think that strategy would have worked better ? (Joke on the article not you HGM°)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I stopped at 7. Bay is NOT better than Nady. I'd say they're about the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wassit3
the yankees should have had joba in the rotation all year. That kid is honestly as good rich harden, he needs to start consistently.
by the way, best moment in the article:
"He bats .401 with 23 home runs when the bases are empty, but hits just .385 with 12 home runs when runners are in scoring position."
WTF?!?! just .385?? lol
I think it's safe to say that askmen.com is not the most reputable news source, especially for a list of this nature... :D
Move number 1. Get out of the AL East. Since God started answering my prayers on the Red Sox, the Yankees have known nothing but humiliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wassit3
You are joking, right? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelb1
Yes he is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelb1
that one made me laugh too...Quote:
Originally Posted by pacers721
No. Bay's OPS+ 133...Nady's OPS+ 127Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Bay's a little faster. Strikes out more. What exactly am i missing here?
Bay and Nady are about the same age, 29. nady had far and away his best season this year. Bay, for Bay, was normal. Career OPS+ : Bay 130, Nady 108. I would say that Bay has been clearly better.
As far as ARod.....the stats cited make no sense whatsoever. He hit .302 in 2008. How could he possibly have hit .401 with the bases empty and also hit .385 with runners in scoring position? This has to be at least a couple of hundred at bats, so what is left to drag his average down to "just" .302? Did he hit .025 with a runner at first base?
And last year Bay was horrible (for him)....I'm of the opinion what we saw of them this year is what we're likely to see for the next 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
As for Arod, that has to be some sort of misprint. Maybe the whole damn thing was tongue-in-cheek.
You're missing that what decides who is a better player or not is NOT one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelb1
Xavier Nady is a slightly better than league average hitter who had a fluke first half of the season driven by a high BABIP. His performance with the Yankees - .268/.320/.474, 108 OPS+ - is right in line with his career rates. After the trade, he regressed to his norm. His high BABIP-driven batting average with the Pirates prior to the trade gave him far and away the best season of his career.
Bay had a horrible 2007, likely due to playing through a knee injury. His 2008 performance is right in line with his 2004-2006 performance.
When determining who's the better player, you have to discern as best as you can the player's true talent level, not his performance over one season. Bay's true talent level is that of a roughly 130 OPS+ hitter. Nady's is roughly of a 105 OPS+ hitter.
Yes, very likely, what we saw of Bay this year is what we will see going forward, and that's right in line with what he did prior to 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelb1
Nady, though, is a different story. What we saw from him in his time with New York is likely what we will see going forward, and that's something much worse than Jason Bay. Unless you really think that Nady suddenly at the age of 29 took a huge step forward and became a .330 hitter, and his time with New York was just a fluke, and not a regression to his norm.
Whoever looked up the Arod stats for that article confused batting average with on base percentage, and further confused "runners in scoring position" with "men on base" evidently. This was Arod's OBP and home runs hit in 2008:
.401 and 23 HR with Bases Empty
.385 and 12 HR with Men On Base
.406 and 8 HR with Runners in scoring Position
On base percentage, not batting average. For 2008 he hit .271 with RISP, and .329 with no one on base. Its true that he did not produce up to his own standards with men in scoring position. For his career he has a .303 batting average with RISP, and
.302 with the bases empty.
I agree with 9, 6, 5, 3 and 1
Based on pure, stupid gut-instinct....when Nady becomes the starting LF for the 2009 New York Yankees, his game will be in line with what we saw in his first month in NY.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Here's another guy who had a season similar to ARod. This guy's 1965 season is comparable to ARod in 2008, as follows (BA-OBP-SLP-HR-OPS+):
ARod .302 .392 .573 35 148
Other Guy .318 379 .560 32 160
While Arod only hit .271 (8 HR) with RISP, and .329 (23 HR) with bases empty,
The Other guy hit .270 (6 HR) with RISP, and .327 (20 HR) with bases empty.
I wonder if everyone thought that the Braves should get rid of Hank Aaron after his "unproductive" 1965 season?
What Aaron was doing in his day and age was pretty rare though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog