Do you think Vladimir Guerrero will be a HOF when he retires?
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Do you think Vladimir Guerrero will be a HOF when he retires?
Easily.
I voted maybe.
Not because that's my personal feelings, but the idiotic voters make me wonder.
I think the whole ".300+ average, 25+ homers" for as long and possibly longer than Lou Gehrig will do it for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by free2131
Code:Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
1996 20 MON NL 9 27 2 5 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 3 .185 .185 .296 24 8 0 0 0 0 1
1997 21 MON NL 90 325 44 98 22 2 11 40 3 4 19 39 .302 .350 .483 117 157 0 3 2 7 11 RoY-6
1998 22 MON NL 159 623 108 202 37 7 38 109 11 9 42 95 .324 .371 .589 150 367 0 5 13 7 15 MVP-13
1999 23 MON NL 160 610 102 193 37 5 42 131 14 7 55 62 .316 .378 .600 146 366 0 2 14 7 18 SS,MVP-11,AS
2000 24 MON NL 154 571 101 197 28 11 44 123 9 10 58 74 .345 .410 .664 162 379 0 4 23 8 15 SS,MVP-6,AS
2001 25 MON NL 159 599 107 184 45 4 34 108 37 16 60 88 .307 .377 .566 139 339 0 3 24 9 24 MVP-24,AS
2002 26 MON NL 161 614 106 206 37 2 39 111 40 20 84 70 .336 .417 .593 160 364 0 5 32 6 20 SS,MVP-4,AS
2003 27 MON NL 112 394 71 130 20 3 25 79 9 5 63 53 .330 .426 .586 156 231 0 4 22 6 18 MVP-17
2004 28 ANA AL 156 612 124 206 39 2 39 126 15 3 52 74 .337 .391 .598 157 366 0 8 14 8 19 SS,MVP-1,AS
2005 29 LAA AL 141 520 95 165 29 2 32 108 13 1 61 48 .317 .394 .565 154 294 0 5 26 8 17 SS,MVP-3,AS
2006 30 LAA AL 156 607 92 200 34 1 33 116 15 5 50 68 .329 .382 .552 138 335 0 4 25 4 16 SS,MVP-9,AS
2007 31 LAA AL 150 574 89 186 45 1 27 125 2 3 71 62 .324 .403 .547 147 314 0 6 28 9 19 SS,MVP-3,AS
2008 32 LAA AL 143 541 85 164 31 3 27 91 5 3 51 77 .303 .365 .521 131 282 0 4 16 4 27
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
13 Seasons 6617 2136 43 1268 86 813 .323 .389 .575 147 0 53 239 83 220
1750 1126 404 392 173 666 3802
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162 Game Avg 613 104 198 37 4 36 117 16 8 62 75 .323 .389 .575 147 352 0 5 22 8 20
Career High 161 623 124 206 45 11 44 131 40 20 84 95 .345 .426 .664 162 379 0 8 32 9 27
30-30 twice 320+ BA lifetime .385+ OBP lifetime Might get to 500 HR and just an unbelievable threat in the lineup he should end around 1500 RBI and maybe even 1500 Runs
and 1 of the greates arms of his time along with good defense. I would have said guarente 3 years ago.. he is faiding ever so slightly as long as he doesnt fall off the face of the earth next year or something crazy like that I say he is in
Maybe
Beyond easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Possibly the greatest Dominican player ever. He will make the hall of fame.
Vlad is a lock. And he's still got time left to make an even stronger case, which he doesn't need.
Have you forgotten where Manny comes from? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
yea... manhatten...Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
Santo Domingo, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
ARod is dominican, by heritageQuote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
WOW tahts close manny vs A-Rod ... It's SOOOOO hard to say A-Rod but he may get it by a nose
Wasn't Roberto Clemente Dominican?
I voted "Maybe, he still needs to reach a few more milestones", but I think that he will when he retires, so I actually should have voted "yes", although it wouldn't make sense in the context of this question since I don't think he has a Hall of Fame resume YET, which is how the "yes" question is phrased. My brain hurts.
He was Puerto Rican.Quote:
Originally Posted by EP Hotties
No, Puerto Rican.Quote:
Originally Posted by EP Hotties
I don't think A-Rod should count on the dominican ticket. He didn't play for the Dominican in the WBC :p
He's not quite a lock yet, but he's very close to a lock and almost certainly will be by the time he retires.
I'd say that if he continues to play reasonably well - he'll be in. If he were to get hurt and not play again - he'd probably get in based on his current numbers. If he plays 5 more years but his numbers fall off a lot - then I think he could have trouble as that is what the voters would remember.
Yes, he will make it
He should make it, especially with a few more seasons as DH. I think he's starting to become a "Manny-esque" liability in the outfield
He's definitely a Hall of Famer. He's a career .323/.389/.575 hitter, with 392 homers, a formerly great defensive outfielder (not much in the outfield anymore from what I've seen of him), 2136 hits, 147 OPS+. He'd be a borderline Hall of Famer if he retired now, but hes still only 32 so he should be able to improve on his counting numbers (homers, hits, RBI's, etc.) quite a bit.
He should make it, and after a couple of more seasons if he were to retire, he will make it.
For me He's a Borderline he needs 400 to get in for me
Right now he's one of 3 active players that are borderline HOFer's to me
392 isn't good enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker
He's as safe a bet as there is to get to 400 home runs, but I never understood the obsession with round numbers.
i didnt know how many he had till i read your post i thought he was at 360-375Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Its not like the guy is 36 and on a heavy decline. He's only 32, and while hes probably about to go on a decline, if he hasn't started already, a lot of his numbers stand to only get better.
Apparently they are sexy to some. I agree with you Ohms, however. I prefer straight numbers, not those GAY round numbers :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
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So, that is still not bad, especially with his other statsQuote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker
Yea he's definitely in plaque he will be in an Expo's Cap
He has at least one more long-term contract coming (isn't he a free agent this fall?), so by the end of that, he'll easily be there.
I feel proud to have made you change your mind :D
Is he? Maybe, and if so, he is going to rake in big bucksQuote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
Angels have a $15 million club option for 2009 on him, with a $3 million buyout. There's no way they don't pick it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
He's Definely in my top 5 fav players:D
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What was he sniffing in that pic? :D
His Boogers?