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What an absolute idiot. First, he fathers enough kids with enough women to give Shawn Kemp a run for his money (or what's left of it after support payments, anyway), then he gets turfed by the Broncos for being, and I quote, "a disappointment as a person." Now, he decides to be a drug dealer. Way to absolutely crap your career, Trav. Nice life. :rolleyes:
Sad waste of talent.
What a ****ing idiot.
Nah, it's not his fault. It's society.
SW
like anyone is supprised
Travis Henry is a loser.
understatement of the day, why would anyone wastse the chance at a job that pays you millions of dollars per year for half a years worth of work and the odds are you won't get shot while doing your job to become a drug dealer. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wassit3
Plus he already was in trouble for the drug thing before.
One of the saddest parts is that he was an absolutely outstanding running back.
Okay, I don't care at all about football, but that's not the point- why does it matter if some random dude you don't know does drugs? why do people like to make a big stink over it all the time?
I don't care who does drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
The NFL does, though. Especially when players are purchasing huge amounts of cocaine with the intent to sell it. That's what Henry did.
It's an absolutely stupid move on his part. He threw away a career as a professional athlete. A good one, at that.
It's more like....wondering why this guy would throw his promising career away just to get high.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Because people like to get high... I wouldn't imagine that it's a negative experience for a person...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Furthermore, this is more than the guy just getting high.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
As justanewguy said, he purchased a very large amount of cocaine, with intent to deal it.
When you're a promising young athlete with the potential to make millions playing a sport, it's incredibly stupid to get involved in drugs.
Health wise its a negative.
That's what the government wants you to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by asianinvasion
OD'ing could kill you... but responsible drug use really isn't all that bad.
Depends on what drugs you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
But that's all really completely beside the point.
You'd know that for a fact wouldn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
First off, NOBODY is beyond several kilos of coke for personal use...you'd be dead inside of 10 minutes. That means he's dealing. And for a guy who, only a couple years back, was one of the best running backs in the league, a guy whose last contract included a large signing bonus (5 mil, more? I can't remember) to throw away his career to deal coke just proves he is an incredible *****. The fact he has something like 6 kids with 5 different chicks sort of proves my point. Dumb, dumb, dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
That's making a rather large assumption, which in my opinion is flawed on it's face. It's simple, a dealer is a dealer when he actually goes out and deals the drugs. In my opinion, those laws are completely unconstitutional... we don't go arresting people for attempted robbery when they go and purchase a handgun, for example.Quote:
First off, NOBODY is beyond several kilos of coke for personal use...you'd be dead inside of 10 minutes. That means he's dealing.
Besides, people go out and purchase things "in bulk" all the time. That doesn't mean that they necessarily need what their purchasing immediately.
Anyway, I do agree that this was a dumb move. You're a pro player fer chrissake! Go check yourself into a rehab, you bonehead...
Okay, I concede he isn't probably going out on the corner and dealing 8-balls out in to passing car windows. :D It seems likely, though, that he is tied in to some sort of drugrunning operation. I have never heard of a cokehead who purchased it multiple kilos at a time...why would you? It just increases the chance of getting nailed if you have more pying around, it gets you NOTICED more quickly, and in many states, I believe you can incur a more serious charge if you get busted with more of it...case in point, this one. If he just had a small personal stash, he wouldn't be facing charges of conspiracy to traffic.
Likely, sure... but that doesn't mean that it should be worth the extra penalties. Actual dealing should (assuming that "dealing" should be illegal at all...). This is just another aspect of the depths of hypocrisy that the Drug War is putting us through, let alone the damage to society. I mentioned the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face", well, here's a perfect example.
Anyway, we're getting off on a tangent here. Where the hell are the Broncos, his agent, or the NFLPA on this? Where is his family? Doesn't anyone involved in his life actually care about him enough to have intervened before now?
The NFL will forgive anything and law enforcement will go with it. If you remember PacMan Jones was in this boat ( Arrested 7 times in 1 year for felonious). Now his name is Adam Jones and all is forgiven. Its ********, but true.Quote:
The NFL does, though. Especially when players are purchasing huge amounts of cocaine with the intent to sell it.
If you look at the charges he was facing, you or I would have been in the big house for 5+ years. Just think, we are driving down main street USA and pull a gun on some dude. He balks so we get out of the car and beat the hell out of him plus bust a cap in his ass. On top of this, we have enuff X and coke to get busted for distribution.
I am a normal guy in NY. 5 on the gun, 3 on the battery, 10 on the drugs, 20-25 on the distribution. So I am in prison for life. Or play football....
Thank god for the NFL.
See though, that's a big part of what I'm talking about. What the hell is the NFL, the NFLPA, and the player's agent's thinking about when it comes to these incidents? They have to know what these guys are doing... What about the College coaches and their staff? It's not like this sort of behavior is something that they learn to do once they reach the pros.
I have a hard time blaming them for their personal indiscretions when everyone around them does all but actively encourage it!
Ohms, you are correct in the ways I agree with. A kid (like you or I at 18) gets waved millions under his nose. How would you behave?
I know that without money from 18-21 I was a total idiot. Women, beer, and more beer worked. Thing was, I was in the Army after that. I cant imagine how bad I would be w/out the military. Still, I dont think I ever shot anyone at a bar. :D
I agree with you about the utter fallacy of 'The War on Drugs'. Should the penalties change like they do? No. The fact is, though, that they currently do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Well, he hasn't been a member of the Broncos since the end of last year, so, quite frankly, he isn't their problem. His agent and the PA...good questions. Frankly, the PA has been blasted the past couple of years for only caring about their chunks of player cheques and getting suspensions reduced...this just seems to be another shot to support those claims. And his family...from what I've read, he doesn't seem to really have a close relationship with any of his family...actually, if one wanted to play pop psychologist, it seems plausible that a man who would pop out as many kids with as many women as he does is rather desperately crying out for ANY kind of relationship to cling to.
That's certainly true. I wholeheartedly support following existing law... I just quite often find myself saying "wtf?" when it comes to the letter of the law.Quote:
The fact is, though, that they currently do.
You're probably correct about that.Quote:
it seems plausible that a man who would pop out as many kids with as many women as he does is rather desperately crying out for ANY kind of relationship to cling to.
I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the various players associations and the player's agents (this goes way beyond just football) need to be made liable for part of their client's behavior. Professional athletes are not normal citizens, it seems to me, and the cause of that is, I think indisputably, the fact that they are pro athletes. There's got to be some way to ensure that the overall well being of these guys is being looked after...
By the way, part of this is coming from the fact that I've been reading "A well paid slave" recently. This stuff isn't new at all, and it's certainly not limited to any one sport. The teams, agents, and coaches all handle athletes like livestock, and it starts even before the players are fully professional.
I agree. If the PA is supposed to be there to support the player, I find it quite odd that they support them only when it comes to what they do on the field of play, and once they're off, that's it. Most labor unions that I know of do have resources set up for employees who are having problems AWAY from work, but the PA doesn't in any sport that I'm aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
I'm also bothered by the way that, once a player retires, he's no longer worried about at all (this is especially the case in the NFL, and there's a major movement afoot right now from current and former players to change this). These are the guys who the game has been built upon. Gee, maybe the union that supposedly backs them should be making sure they're doing okay?
Then again, the PA is often in odd situations when it comes to current players, too. Case in point...always going to bat for a player to have his suspension reduced for an illegal hit/check/whatever (depending on sport, obviously) against another player. Doesn't the PA also supposedly represent the VICTIM of that shot, a person who is frequently sidelined for a period as a result of it?
That there is a whole other aspect to sports unions that is totally screwed up. "normal" unions have their own boards that take care of those sorts of issues, and then present the solution to management.Quote:
Then again, the PA is often in odd situations when it comes to current players, too. Case in point...always going to bat for a player to have his suspension reduced for an illegal hit/check/whatever (depending on sport, obviously) against another player. Doesn't the PA also supposedly represent the VICTIM of that shot, a person who is frequently sidelined for a period as a result of it?
The ultimate example of a mess like this that I can think of was after Todd Bertuzzi brutally gooned Steve Moore. He broke his neck, ended his career, damn well COULD have killed him the way he took him out...and there's the NHLPA, backing Bertuzzi in getting his suspension reduced, while Moore's lying in a hospital bed. Where the Hell was his union for HIM at that moment?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Good question.
I don't know for sure obviously, but it certainly looks like the NFLPA did the math: Moore's career is likely gone, so union dues = $0. Bertuzzi is still playing, so union due = $100's of thousands.
Like I said, I obviously don't know if that's true. That's certainly the appearance that their giving, however.
NHLPA, actually. This was the rare time when hockey made the news in the US, actually. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
You know, pathetic and sickening as it is, I think you might actually have nailed the reasons for them acting the way that they did.
er...yea. NHL. Hey, the key's are only "this far" apart...
:p