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going on...comeback player of the year. It would be hard to say lee wouldn't get this award. But does Hamilton's year qualify?
and in the NL. I have a few players I like the idea of the award going to...and I don't think Lidge is one of them. He has always been pretty damn good. I would probably have to go with a few people, Lohse, Delgado, Brian Giles should get some consideration, and brian McCann
Actually, when the Mets fans are in town, it is a great time, we bash and trash one another, but at the end of the game it is all respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
We love to hate the Mets and their fans! And I am sure it is vice-versa. It is all good and nothing ill-meant about it.
I don't think so. As I said in another thread, the award's definition is for a player who has "re-emerged." Hamilton, simply put, has emerged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Which begs the question - How the hell did Brad Lidge win this award? It's not "award for the player who had an okay season last year, but not as good as he usually has, and then returns to his previous level." It's for players who missed a ton of time to injury, or were REALLY ineffective, and then come back and return to a good level of production.
Cliff Lee was the no-doubt winner in the AL. In the NL, Brad Lidge doesn't even fit the definition of the award. Jorge Cantu, Kerry Wood, Rich Harden, Cristian Guzman, Ricky Nolasco, etc. would've all been better choices.
IMO, even Tatis would've been a better choice
Yeah, I agree on Lidge. When I was doing my picks for the year end awards on here, he wasn't even in consideration.
Cantu and Tatis are very deserving in the NL. The problem with Tatis is he didn't play quite enough this season... but he was virtually out of baseball for years. In 4 major league seasons before this one, he played only 28 total games (all in 2006)!
Cantu is first on my ballot.
And don't forget Aubrey Huff in the AL. Nothing like Cliff Lee, but he had a very nice comeback of his own.
Yeah, Aubrey Huff sure flew under the radar this year.
Full voting:
Code:American League 1st 2nd 3rd Points
Cliff Lee, CLE 24 2 0 76
Mike Mussina, NYY 1 9 7 28
Milton Bradley, TEX 2 4 6 20
Aubrey Huff, BAL 1 3 4 13
B.J. Ryan, TOR 0 3 7 13
Zack Greinke, KC 1 4 1 12
Francisco Liriano, MIN 0 3 2 8
J. Duchscherer, OAK 1 0 1 4
Ervin Santana, LAA 0 2 0 4
Rocco Baldelli, TB 0 0 2 2
The 4 voters that didn't place Cliff Lee somewhere on their ballot should lose their job.Code:National League 1st 2nd 3rd Points
Brad Lidge, PHI 12 7 3 53
Kerry Wood, CHC 6 6 4 34
Ryan Ludwick, STL 5 4 4 27
Jorge Cantu, FLA 2 5 7 23
Fernando Tatis, NYM 2 5 2 18
Jody Gerut, SD 1 1 1 6
Gabe Kapler, MIL 0 1 4 6
Doug Davis, ARI 1 1 0 5
Mike Lincoln, CIN 1 0 0 3
Mike Hampton, ATL 0 0 2 2
Chan Ho Park, LAD 0 0 1 1
Who the hell put Chan Ho Park?
Brad Lidge, PHI 12 7 3 53
Kerry Wood, CHC 6 6 4 34
Ryan Ludwick, STL 5 4 4 27
Idiots, Wood was not terrible last year, ludwick has nothing to comeback from, and Lidge was good. And Mike Hampton? Chan Ho Park? Wtf?
Park pitched 4 innings for the Mets last year. This year, he pitched 95.1 innings, mostly in relief, with LA and had a 130 ERA+. He's not that bad of a pick for a 3rd place vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
He only pitched 22 games. This is his first full season in a while. Fine pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
Hampton sucked this year, but it's likely a token vote to him for coming back after 3 injury-plagued seasons, and not having pitched since 2005.Quote:
And Mike Hampton? Chan Ho Park? Wtf?
Yes, but that is still not a come back. That is a come short, because he did not approach his previous levelQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
What? This was Park's best season since 2001. yes, it's a comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
You guys have just proved your point. both Phillie fans and Mets fans suck. Good job. Lets go Brewers.