2008 Sports Mogul MLB Awards - Ballot Discussion

My votes might seem a lil skewed to you, but I don’t look at the teams as much as I look at the players individual success and my criteria is very different then many others. So I am prepared to defend my answers.

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols
2. Hanley Ramierz
3. David Wright
4. Ryan Howard
5. Chipper Jones
6. Chase Utley
7. Matt Holiday
8. Lance Berkman
9. Ryan Braun
10. Ryan Ludwick

AL MVP

1. Josh Hamilton
2. Miguel Cabrera
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Dustin Pedroia
5. Joe Mauer
6. Aubrey Huff
7. Carlos Quentin
8. Jermaine Dye
9. Grady Sizemore
10. Vlad Gurrero

NL CY Young

1. Linceum
2. Webb
3. Santana

AL CY Young

1. Lee
2. Halladay
3. Mussina

NL Reliever

1. Lidge
2. Fuentes
3. Valverde

AL Reliever

1. K Rod
2. Soria
3. Nathan

Not bad, except K-Rod is not the best reliever, and your AL MVP is a bit messed up. Mauer and Pedrioa should be higher, and Morneau should be up with them. And Youkilis should be on the list

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

Not bad, except K-Rod is not the best reliever, and your AL MVP is a bit messed up. Mauer and Pedrioa should be higher, and Morneau should be up with them. And Youkilis should be on the list

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I can certainly agree with you. I just dont feel Morneau quite did it, but you are right, he probably should be on there somewhere, he played a great year even if his homeruns were down. Perodia and Mauer I question bc neither hit 20, hell Mauer didn't even hit 10. I really love the way both players play, but I question their MVP status. I wish they were on my team though!

K-Rod, just because he really did help the Angels and I feel his record year should be given some credit, even if he was helped a lot along the way.

Who would you put as AL Reliever? just curious that's all

Remember to email or send a private message to HoustonGM with your votes or they won't be counted.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I can certainly agree with you. I just dont feel Morneau quite did it, but you are right, he probably should be on there somewhere, he played a great year even if his homeruns were down. Perodia and Mauer I question bc neither hit 20, hell Mauer didn't even hit 10. I really love the way both players play, but I question their MVP status. I wish they were on my team though!

K-Rod, just because he really did help the Angels and I feel his record year should be given some credit, even if he was helped a lot along the way.

Who would you put as AL Reliever? just curious that's all

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My AL reliever was Joe Nathan I believe. And just because Pedrioa and Mauer did not hit 20 does not mean they did not contribute. They play positions that normally are lesser offensivley, and did really good.

I agree with you, but I am not sure they are above 4 and 5 in my opinion. if Mauer batted .372 again I'd say he is putting himself in a different league, but his average this year wasn't anything to get too excited about in my opinion

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Originally Posted by etothep

I don't recall Hamilton emerging anytime prior. Yes, I know, the drugs thing, but I'm curious how Hamilton fits the definition of re-emerging as opposed to simply emerging?

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He fits the "emerging" definition, like with Ryan Ludwick and and Carlos Quentin.

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Originally Posted by haveacigar

how late do you want the ballots, HGM?

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The last day that I'm accepting ballots is Monday, October 6th, and I'll accept them all day that day up until midnight.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I would like to participate in the voting. What do I need to do? I am looking through this thread but I can't seem to find what I need to submit and to who

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Read the thread stickied at the top of this forum (Sports Talk). It has all the instructions. Make sure to submit your ballot to me via PM or email for it to be officially counted.

Most Valuable Player (10)

AL MVP:
1. Josh Hamilton
2. Dustin Pedroia
3. Justin Morneau
4. Alex Rodriguez
5. Cliff Lee
6. Milton Bradley
7. Francisco Rodriguez
8. Kevin Youkilis
9. Joe Mauer
10. Evan Longoria

NL MVP:
1. Albert Pujols
2. Lance Berkman
3. Carlos Delgado
4. Ryan Howard
5. David Wright
6. Ryan Braun
7. CC Sabathia
8. Hanley Ramirez
9. Chase Utley
10. Manny Ramirez
Cy Young (3)

AL Cy Young
1. Cliff Lee
2. Mike Mussina
3. Roy Halladay

NL Cy Young
1. Brandon Webb
2. Tim Lincecum
3. Johan Santana

Rookie of the Year (3) (The rookie thresholds are 130 at bats, 50 innings pitched, or 45 days on the active roster of a major league club, excluding time on the disabled list. A player who, at the beginning of the season, is over any of those thresholds is not eligible for the award.)

AL Rookie of the Year
1. Evan Longoria
2. Jacoby Ellsbury
3. Armando Gallaraga

NL Rookie of the Year
1. Geovany Soto
2. Joey Votto
3. Hiroki Kuroda

Relief Pitcher of the Year (3)

AL Rolaids Relief Award:
1. Francisco Rodriguez
2. Mariano Rivera
3. Joe Nathan

NL Rolaids Relief Award:
1. Brad Lidge
2. Kerry Wood
3. Brian Fuentes
Gold Glove (3 P, 3 C, 3 1B, 3 2B, 3 3B, 3 SS, 9 OF)
Not Voting
Silver Slugger (3 P in NL, 3 DH in AL, 3 C, 3 1B, 3 2B, 3 3B, 3 SS, 9 OF)
NL Silver Slugger
P: C. Zambrano, M. Owings,J. Marquis
C: B. McCann, G. Soto, R. Doumit
1B: A. Pujols, R. Howard, C. Delgado
2B: C. Utley, M. DeRosa, D. Uggla
SS: H. Ramirez, S. Drew, J. Reyes
3B: D. Wright, C. Jones, J. Cantu
OF: R. Braun, R. Ludwick, C. Beltran, C. Lee, N. McLouth, R. Ankiel, A. Dunn, M. Holliday, B. Hawpe

AL Silver Sluggers:
DH M. Bradley, A. Huff, J. Thome
C J. Mauer, M. Napoli, A. Pierzynski
1B M. Cabrera, K. Youkilis, J. Giambi
2B D. Pedroia, A. Ramirez, I. Kinsler
SS D. Jeter, J. Peralta, M. Young
3B A. Rodriguez, E. Longoria, M. Mora
OF J. Hamilton, C. Quentin, J. Dye, G. Sizemore, V. Guererro, R. Ibanez, M. Ordonez, N. Markakis, V. Wells
Comeback Player of the Year (3)
AL Comeback:
1 Cliff Lee
2 Aubrey Huff
3 Milton Bradley

NL Comeback:
1 Fernando Tatis
2 Jorge Cantu
3 Kerry Wood

Manager of the Year (3)
AL Manager of the Year:
1. Joe Maddon
2. Ron Gardenhire
3. Mike Scoscia

NL Manager of the Year:
1. Joe Torre
2. Ned Yost
3. Jerry Manuel (for getting the Mets so close to the playoffs)


General Manager of the Year (3)
NOT VOTING

Why Torre for 2nd? They barely topped .500. And Ned Yost got fired, and was a poor manager. And I would rank Mussina after Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, Matsuzaka, and Lester AT LEAST

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

Why Torre for 2nd? They barely topped .500. And Ned Yost got fired, and was a poor manager. And I would rank Mussina after Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, Matsuzaka, and Lester AT LEAST

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I've got a better question: Why are you just sitting around waiting for people to post their ballots so you can criticize them?

Critisizm is fun, and I am not waiting, I noticed you had posted, so I responded

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

Why Torre for 2nd? They barely topped .500. And Ned Yost got fired, and was a poor manager. And I would rank Mussina after Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, Matsuzaka, and Lester AT LEAST

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I'm having a tough time with my #3 for AL Cy Young. There's so damn many starters who are just so close together, it might just end up being a closer.

Yea, Nathan, Soria, Rivera, and Papelbon deserve mention

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

Yea, Nathan, Soria, Rivera, and Papelbon deserve mention

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and Francisco Rodriguez... WTH is with you and this guy? He's had a great season, like it or not...

He was GOOOD, not GREAT. SAVES are NOT ALL