Last Game at Shea

Any ideas on who the Mets might bring back for that game? I've got some ideas:

Catchers
Jerry Grote
Gary Carter
Todd Hundley
Todd Pratt
Mike Piazza

1B
Ed Kranepool
Keith Hernandez
John Olerud
Dave Magadan
Todd Zeile
Dave Kingman

2B
Roberto Alomar
Wally Backman
Jose Valentin
Felix Millan
Edgardo Alfonzo
Tim Teufel
Carlos Baerga

SS
Bud Harrelson
Rey Ordonez
Kevin Elster
Rafael Santana

3B
Howard Johnson
Wayne Garrett
Ray Knight
Robin Ventura
Hubie Brooks

LF
Cleon Jones
Kevin McReynolds
George Foster
Frank Thomas (the one from the 60s)
Benny Agbayani
Rickey Henderson
Bernard Gilkey
Steve Henderson

CF
Mookie Wilson
Lee Mazzilli
Lenny Dykstra
Lance Johnson
Brian McRae
Timo Perez

RF
Darryl Strawberry
Rusty Staub
Ron Swoboda
Joel Youngblood
Roger Cedeno
Shawn Green
Butch Huskey

SP
Tom Seaver
Jerry Koosman
Nolan Ryan
Craig Swan
Jon Matlack
David Cone
Sid Fernandez
Doc Gooden
Ron Darling
Frank Viola
Al Leiter
Steve Trachsel
Bobby Jones
Bob Ojeda

RP
John Franco
Armando Benitez
Jesse Orosco
Roger McDowell

Managers
Yogi Berra
Davey Johnson

Others
Jane Jarvis
Frank Cashen
Ralph Kiner
Howie Rose
Dan Duquette

Are they planning on doing something like the Yanks did?

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Originally Posted by EVEN11323

Are they planning on doing something like the Yanks did?

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That was going to be my question.

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Originally Posted by EVEN11323

Are they planning on doing something like the Yanks did?

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Well the Mets don't have the history the Yankees have, so I doubt it

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Originally Posted by defense

Well the Mets don't have the history the Yankees have, so I doubt it

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I just rolled off like 50 people who could show up...

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

I just rolled off like 50 people who could show up...

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Your first post kind of implies that you think they ARE doing something...and we're just wondering if they are...

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

I just rolled off like 50 people who could show up...

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And none of them can match the people the Yankees brought in tonight

I mean they are good players, but face it, bring those Mets back won't even come close to the people the Yankees brought back. Not to mention the history of Yankee Stadium is much better than Shea's history.

It just won't be the same.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Your first post kind of implies that you think they ARE doing something...and we're just wondering if they are...

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I dunno if they are, I hope they are... they certainly have enough history at Shea to do something like that.

Really, who cares

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Originally Posted by Reade

Really, who cares

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You're going to care during the last game at Wrigley, whenever that is.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

You're going to care during the last game at Wrigley, whenever that is.

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Wrigley's in the same category as Yankee Stadium, really. Shea isn't.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Wrigley's in the same category as Yankee Stadium, really. Shea isn't.

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You're saying Shea doesn't have history?

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

You're saying Shea doesn't have history?

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No, I'm not saying that.

Shea isn't 'storied' the way that Yankee Stadium and Wrigley are. Frankly, they might be the last 2 ballparks that can even be described that way. There aren't many venues like that left in sports.

Actually, when you think about it, Shea actually has more history then Wrigley.

4 pennants to 2 pennants
2 championships to 1 championship (maybe 0, when did Wrigley open?)

I hope Wrigley never closes, honestly. And pennant and championship success does not="history"

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Shea isn't 'storied' the way that Yankee Stadium and Wrigley are. Frankly, they might be the last 2 ballparks that can even be described that way. There aren't many venues like that left in sports.

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Fenway, too.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Actually, when you think about it, Shea actually has more history then Wrigley.

4 pennants to 2 pennants
2 championships to 1 championship (maybe 0, when did Wrigley open?)

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That's a very limited way of quantifying "history."

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Shea isn't 'storied' the way that Yankee Stadium and Wrigley are. Frankly, they might be the last 2 ballparks that can even be described that way. There aren't many venues like that left in sports.

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Fenway Park


EDIT- Damn, HGM beat me to it...

Yep, Fenway as well. I think that would be it, though.

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Shea isn't 'storied' the way that Yankee Stadium and Wrigley are. Frankly, they might be the last 2 ballparks that can even be described that way. There aren't many venues like that left in sports.

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I would leave this category to Fenway, Wrigley, Lambeau in Green Bay, and maybe even Texas Stadium in Dallas after Yankee stadium is gone. Maybe The Big House in Michigan. Ohio Stadium...the LA Coliseum...

Maybe our new stadiums will have stories of their own for our kids to watch but as of right now...those remain in all of sports.

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Yep, Fenway as well. I think that would be it, though.

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Well, if you take all sports, I guess MSG would probably be pretty storied.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

I would leave this category to Fenway, Wrigley, Lambeau in Green Bay, and maybe even Texas Stadium in Dallas after Yankee stadium is gone. Maybe The Big House in Michigan. Ohio Stadium...the LA Coliseum...

Maybe our new stadiums will have stories of their own for our kids to watch but as of right now...those remain in all of sports.

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And Texas Stadium is being replaced...I think in 2010. I know the new stadium is being built, but I seem to remember reading that it won't be finished for next year.

I still consider Soldier Field in that category, too. They renovated the interior of it to some extent, but it's still basically the same stadium. Uhhhhh...you could put Madison Square Garden on the list, especially when you get in to some of the huge fights that have been held there. Oh, Rose Bowl Stadium deserves a mention.

The only thing about MSG is that it has been in 4 different buildings, but yes, a TON of history there.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Well, if you take all sports, I guess MSG would probably be pretty storied.

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Aaaah, stop reading my mind! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Shea isn't 'storied' the way that Yankee Stadium and Wrigley are. Frankly, they might be the last 2 ballparks that can even be described that way. There aren't many venues like that left in sports.

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Fenway also

But trying to put Shea in the category of those three stadiums is pretty dumb(no offense metsguy).

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Originally Posted by defense

Fenway also

But trying to put Shea in the category of those three stadiums is pretty dumb(no offense metsguy).

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Shea has been around for 44 years, they've got LOADS of history.

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

And Texas Stadium is being replaced...I think in 2010. I know the new stadium is being built, but I seem to remember reading that it won't be finished for next year.

I still consider Soldier Field in that category, too. They renovated the interior of it to some extent, but it's still basically the same stadium. Uhhhhh...you could put Madison Square Garden on the list, especially when you get in to some of the huge fights that have been held there. Oh, Rose Bowl Stadium deserves a mention.

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Yep Texas Stadium will be gone as well.

Soldier Field is a good one and MSG because of the fight yes, because of the Knicks...no.

Rose Bowl has had some great games and some great events as well.

The Old Mile High witnessed some history as well. It was one of sports darlings until 7 years ago.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Shea has been around for 44 years, they've got LOADS of history.

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Nothing too notable

If you are trying to compare Shea to the likes of Fenway, Wrigley, or Yankee Stadium, you are showing huge homerism.

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Originally Posted by defense

Nothing too notable

If you are trying to compare Shea to the likes of Fenway, Wrigley, or Yankee Stadium, you are showing huge homerism.

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1969 World Series
1973 World Series
1986 World Series
2000 World Series
Playoffs in like 5 or 6 other seasons

A perfect game thrown by Jim Bunning and probably some no-hitters too...

Hosted the Jets for many years

Hosted Mets/Jets/Yankees/Giants in 1974.

Hosted 1964 ASG.

Hosted The Beatles, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, and many other musical acts.

Hosted Pope John Paul II.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

1969 World Series
1973 World Series
1986 World Series
2000 World Series
Playoffs in like 5 or 6 other seasons

A perfect game thrown by Jim Bunning and probably some no-hitters too...

Hosted the Jets for many years

Hosted Mets/Jets/Yankees/Giants in 1974.

Hosted 1964 ASG.

Hosted The Beatles, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, and many other musical acts.

Hosted Pope John Paul II.

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Ok. Two World Series that they won were played in Shea. And the history of the 1986 World Series was the game in Fenway, so it isn't like the 1986 World Series has too much history attached to Shea.

Ok, that's all fine and dandy, but if you are actually making a case that Shea is in the likes of a Yankee, Fenway, or Wrigley, you are beyond being a normal Mets homer. No offense or anything. All three of those stadiums have had EPIC games played in them(03 ALCS game 7, Buckey Dents game, the Bartman game, the goat, Babe Ruth's shot, etc.), and have been AROUND much longer, and have had MANY MORE playoffs played in them than Shea has

Shea is a second tier stadium when it comes to history, and importance to baseball, but you are crazy to compare it to those three stadiums

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Originally Posted by defense

Ok. Two World Series that they won were played in Shea. And the history of the 1986 World Series was the game in Fenway, so it isn't like the 1986 World Series has too much history attached to Shea.

Ok, that's all fine and dandy, but if you are actually making a case that Shea is in the likes of a Yankee, Fenway, or Wrigley, you are beyond being a normal Mets homer. No offense or anything. All three of those stadiums have had EPIC games played in them(03 ALCS game 7, Buckey Dents game, the Bartman game, the goat, Babe Ruth's shot, etc.), and have been AROUND much longer, and have had MANY MORE playoffs played in them than Shea has

Shea is a second tier stadium when it comes to history, and importance to baseball, but you are crazy to compare it to those three stadiums

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Wrigley has had many more playoffs then Shea?

And no, the Buckner game was at Shea...

Actually Game 6 in '86 was at Shea.

Metsguy beat me to it.

Shea is obviously historical. But playoff success does not=history in all aspects. Wrigley is a gem of a stadium. It's one of the dandies of baseball with it's giant beams blocking some views as is Fenway Park.

it has intricacies and downhome feeling. It has ivy hanging on the outfield walls, it has imperfections that make Wrigley what it is. It has people watching from their rooftops. It has LETS GO CUBS it has Chicago's heart.

It has an address everyone knows. Much like Fenway. 4 Yawkey Way and 1060 West Addison Street are known by all.

Shea had history come to it...Wrigley made it's own.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Shea is obviously historical. But playoff success does not=history in all aspects. Wrigley is a gem of a stadium. It's one of the dandies of baseball with it's giant beams blocking some views as is Fenway Park.

it has intricacies and downhome feeling. It has ivy hanging on the outfield walls, it has imperfections that make Wrigley what it is. It has people watching from their rooftops. It has LETS GO CUBS it has Chicago's heart.

It has an address everyone knows. Much like Fenway. 4 Yawkey Way and 1060 West Addison Street are known by all.

Shea had history come to it...Wrigley made it's own.

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Actually I had no idea that Wrigley was at 1060 W Addison St. until you just told me... so I guess that address isn't known by all...

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Actually I had no idea that Wrigley was at 1060 W Addison St. until you just told me... so I guess that address isn't known by all...

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Cool.

But it still has more history then Shea. That is one thing you are going to have to realize.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Cool.

But it still has more history then Shea. That is one thing you are going to have to realize.

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What history does it have though? No games of any real importance have ever been played there.

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Shea is obviously historical. But playoff success does not=history in all aspects. Wrigley is a gem of a stadium. It's one of the dandies of baseball with it's giant beams blocking some views as is Fenway Park.

it has intricacies and downhome feeling. It has ivy hanging on the outfield walls, it has imperfections that make Wrigley what it is. It has people watching from their rooftops. It has LETS GO CUBS it has Chicago's heart

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It has Steve Bartman, too. And "THROW IT BACK! THROW IT BACK!" It has celebrities singing the seventh inning stretch. It has Harry Caray's voice still ringing through it.

Important games are merely small portions of history.

The history of ballparks like Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley aren't really things that can be explained, in my opinion, its something that has to be understood, if that makes any sense to anyone.

Its not always the games that make the stadiums, its the little (or big) intricacies and quirks of the ballpark that make it what it is. Its the ivy for Wrigley, the Green Monster and Pesky Pole at Fenway, the black and the short right field porch at Yankee Stadium. Its things like those that make them what they are.

What about the flag game at Wrigley, Babe Ruth's called shot, the Bartman game, Kerry Wood's 20 strikeouts? Those are all things in the same vein as Dent's homer at Fenway and the Game 7's in the '03 and '04 ALCS.

I think the old Busch could've been put in the same guard as Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley before it was replaced with the new Busch, on a related note.

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Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG

The history of ballparks like Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley aren't really things that can be explained, in my opinion, its something that has to be understood, if that makes any sense to anyone.

Its not always the games that make the stadiums, its the little (or big) intricacies and quirks of the ballpark that make it what it is. Its the ivy for Wrigley, the Green Monster and Pesky Pole at Fenway, the black and the short right field porch at Yankee Stadium. Its things like those that make them what they are.

What about the flag game at Wrigley, Babe Ruth's called shot, the Bartman game, Kerry Wood's 20 strikeouts? Those are all things in the same vein as Dent's homer at Fenway and the Game 7's in the '03 and '04 ALCS.

I think the old Busch could've been put in the same guard as Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley before it was replaced with the new Busch, on a related note.

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Nope, Busch had been around less then Shea. If Shea doesn't count, then screw Busch Stadium.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Nope, Busch had been around less then Shea. If Shea doesn't count, then screw Busch Stadium.

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History does not always equal age.