what current players do you think will be HOFers?

what current players do you think will be HOFers? To make things bit simpler let's hold the discussion to MLB players with at least 10 years of service as of this season, this makes it a bit easier to project what they might do over the next 5 seasons or so to finish out their careers don't you think vs. a relatively new commer with less than 4 seasons of experience. Here's my short list of guys that have at least a 50% shot with the most obvious ones coming first: 1. Griffey 2. Randy Johnson 3. Derek Jeter 4. Alex Rodriguez 5. Jim Thome 6. Barry Bonds 7. Mike Mussina has at least a 50% chance, I think if he can have another year or two like this year he will get in. 8. John Smoltz 9. Greg Maddux is a lock of course 10. Swinging Sammy Sosa has a decent shot. Who's on your list guys?

Lets see:

Schilling
Alex Rodriguez
Manny Ramirez
Jim Thome
Omar Vizquel
Greg maddux
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz
trevor Hoffman
Pedro martinez
Mariano Rivera
Derek Jeter
Chipper Jones
Andruw Jones is young enough that if he turns it around, he has a chance
Frank Thomas
Ivan Rodriguez
Mike Mussina
Vladmir Guerrero
Gary Sheffield
Randy Johnson
Todd Helton

Wow that's a lot of Hall of Famers

Oh, Yea,

Jeff Kent
Albert Pujols
Yea, kevin Brown is deserving
Billy Wagner maybe....


Retired that should be in

Piazza
Bert Blevlyn
Larry Walker

Locks if not for steroid connection/suspicion:

• Barry Bonds
• Roger Clemens
• Sammy Sosa
• Mark McGwire
• Rafael Palmeiro

Locks:

• Ken Griffey Jr.
• Randy Johnson
• Greg Maddux
• John Smoltz
• Tom Glavine
• Derek Jeter
• Alex Rodriguez
• Frank Thomas
• Ivan Rodriguez
• Mike Piazza
• Pedro Martinez
• Trevor Hoffman
• Mariano Rivera
• Chipper Jones
• Manny Ramirez
• Craig Biggio
• Albert Pujols - I know he's not got 10 years yet, but I think it's safe to say that he's in, so long as he makes it to 10 years, which barring tragedy, he will.

I say they should be, not positive they will:

• Jim Thome
• Gary Sheffield
• Mike Mussina
• Curt Schilling
• Jeff Kent
• Jorge Posada
• Vladimir Guerrero
• Jeff Bagwell
• Carlos Delgado
• Ichiro Suzuki

I think should be in but doubt they will:

• Kevin Brown
• Edgar Martinez

Undecided on chances and my own opinion:

• Todd Helton

I say they shouldn't be, but they have a shot:

• Omar Vizquel
• Andy Pettitte
• Billy Wagner

No to thome, sheffield, a. jones

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

Bert Blevlyn

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Blyleven, Jim Rice, and Andre Dawson are all getting in within the next few years, barring the BBWAA completely going against the way they've voted in all past elections.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Blyleven, Jim Rice, and Andre Dawson are all getting in within the next few years, barring the BBWAA completely going against the way they've voted in all past elections.

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Dunno about Bert, they have kept him out this long...

Let's see: current or recently retired or people who haven't made the HOF yet but should

Bonds
Griffey
Sosa
Thome
Biggio
Bagwell
Rickey Henderson
Bert Blyleven
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Andre Dawson
RON SANTO
Gil Hodges
Vizquel
Hoffman
Mussina
Schilling
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
Omar Vizquel
Sheffield
PIAZZA
Tom Glavine
Maddux
Smoltz
Helton
Billy Wagner
John Franco
Manny Ramirez
Chipper Jones
Frank Thomas
Pujols
Jeff Kent
Jim Edmonds

Sorry if I missed anyone big, I think I covered everyone though.

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Originally Posted by Wassit3

Dunno about Bert, they have kept him out this long...

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He recently got 60% of the vote or so. History shows us that when a player gets that much of the vote, they're nearly guaranteed to be elected, and if not by the BBWAA, definitely by the Veteran's Committee. But I think he'll get in by the BBWAA. Rich Lederer's campaign over at thebaseballanalysts.com really did some good.

By the way, here's an article from today on the BBWAA voting process. It links back to previous articles written by the same guy, as well. The article examines the trends of the BBWAA voting.

Henderson's a lock to go in this coming year. Santo should've been in a long time ago. I don't think Gil Hodges should be in, nor do I think he will get in through the VC. And John Franco? He doesn't belong in, and won't get in.

I limited my list above, though, to currently active players or players that are retired but haven't yet been on the ballot (except for McGwire and Palmeiro).

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Locks if not for steroid connection/suspicion:

• Barry Bonds
• Roger Clemens
• Sammy Sosa
• Mark McGwire

Locks:

• Ken Griffey Jr.
• Randy Johnson
• Greg Maddux
• John Smoltz
• Tom Glavine
• Derek Jeter
• Alex Rodriguez
• Frank Thomas
• Ivan Rodriguez
• Mike Piazza
• Pedro Martinez
• Trevor Hoffman
• Mariano Rivera
• Chipper Jones
• Manny Ramirez
• Albert Pujols - I know he's not got 10 years yet, but I think it's safe to say that he's in, so long as he makes it to 10 years, which barring tragedy, he will.

I say they should be, not positive they will:

• Jim Thome
• Gary Sheffield
• Mike Mussina
• Curt Schilling
• Jeff Kent
• Jorge Posada
• Vladimir Guerrero

I think should be in but doubt they will:

• Kevin Brown

Undecided on chances and my own opinion:

• Todd Helton

I say they shouldn't be, but they have a shot:

• Omar Vizquel
• Andy Pettitte
• Billy Wagner

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what about Jim Edmonds (8 gold gloves, 4 all-star), Juan González (2 MVP, 6 silver slugger awards, 5 40 plus homer seasons)?

Lets see....

1B Albert Pujols
LF Barry Bonds
CF Ken Griffey Jr.
SP Roger Clemens
SP Pedro Martinez
OF Rickey Henderson
RP Mariano Rivera
C Mike Piazza
C Ivan Rodriguez
SP Greg Maddux
SP/RP John Smoltz
SP Tim Glavine
1B/3B/DH Jim Thome
3B Chipper Jones
LF Manny Ramirez
RP Trevor Hoffman
DH Frank Thomas
1B Todd Helton
RF Vladimir Guerrero
2B Jeff Kent
SP Curt Schilling
SS Omar Vizquel
SS Derek Jeter
3B Alex Rodriguez

I'm sure I missed some guys I think will/should get in, but there's my list.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Henderson's a lock to go in this coming year. Santo should've been in a long time ago. I don't think Gil Hodges should be in, nor do I think he will get in through the VC. And John Franco? He doesn't belong in, and won't get in.

I limited my list above, though, to currently active players or players that are retired but haven't yet been on the ballot (except for McGwire and Palmeiro).

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John Franco: one of the greatest closers in the history of the game? Feared by all when he was on the mound? Mets hero? That John Franco doesn't belong in the HOF? Get real ,HGM...

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

John Franco: one of the greatest closers in the history of the game? Feared by all when he was on the mound? Mets hero? That John Franco doesn't belong in the HOF? Get real ,HGM...

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:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Wassit3

what about Jim Edmonds (8 gold gloves, 4 all-star), Juan González (2 MVP, 6 silver slugger awards, 5 40 plus homer seasons)?

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I'm split on Jim Edmonds. He doesn't have the career value I like to see, but his peak value was incredible. I lean towards yes. However, I doubt he'll actually have much of a chance.

Juan Gonzalez, no. I don't think he belongs, and I also highly doubt he'll make it considering he's an iffy case to begin with, coupled with the steroid allegations. I also don't think he deserved either MVP award (he beat A-Rod by 3 points in the voting in 1996, but A-Rod had better raw offensive production...from shortstop, and in 1998 he beat out Albert Belle who somehow placed like 9th because the media hated him along with a more deserving Nomar Garciaparra).

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Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG

:rolleyes:

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My thoughts exactly.