Carlos Delgado for MVP

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

bonds
offered his sallary to charity just so he could play

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I think that it's obvious how the two situations aren't comparable.

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Education
$$$ goes to fund underkids education

does that mean he is a nice guy

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I happen to think that he probably is a decent guy. Maybe he has an inflated ego, and is a jerk to the media, but again, all we know about players, unless we personally know them, is what the media tells us, and what the media tells us is greatly influenced by the relationship the media has with the player, and just because a player has a bad relationship with the media doesn't mean that the player is a bad guy.

then how is Bonds a bad guy?

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

then how is Bonds a bad guy?

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I said:

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

I happen to think that he probably is a decent guy

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

I said:

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oops :p I was thinking you ment Pujols is probably a decent guy

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

He is NOT that nice a guy tho. I have read, I have NO idea where now, that he routinely blows off the media and is NOT the prototypicle "nice guy"

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Your confusing a "nice guy" with a "media friendly guy", Pujols isn't overly friendly to the media, he's a quiet, private guy, who doesn't have promoting himself via the media as a priority,

Also Pujols 2nd place MVPs were more a factor of bad luck being behind Bonds and at least 2005 Howard posted very similar stats, Williams was clearly the best player in the league and lost the MVP 3 or 4 times.

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

oops :p I was thinking you ment Pujols is probably a decent guy

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They probably both are.

then again... Jeff Kent did always fight with him :p

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

then again... Jeff Kent did always fight with him :p

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Jeff Kent fights with everybody.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Jeff Kent fights with everybody.

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HE we can safely say... is NOT a nice guy :p

I never really notice but has he ALWAYS been a jerk

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

...all we know about players, unless we personally know them, is what the media tells us, and what the media tells us is greatly influenced by the relationship the media has with the player, and just because a player has a bad relationship with the media doesn't mean that the player is a bad guy.

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I was about to say almost the same thing. I always catch myself conjecturing about a player's personality or where he falls on the "good guy/bad guy" scale and realize it's a media thing. My point about Pujols was, though, while he does avoid the media, he doesn't post blogs ripping the media (like Bonds did), he doesn't engage in standoffs with the media (like Bonds did), and he's certainly not known (through the media) as being a guy with an ugly personality (like Bonds was).

There's very few players (Mark Grace is an example) whose personality is more or less visible with or without the media. With practically EVERY guy in sports, we don't really have a very good idea if they're good, bad, or whatever. Some players tend to be vilified to the point that people begin to honestly believe that they're evil. I'm sure very few players are anywhere near as bad as some of us would like to believe.

Sidney Ponson seems like a pretty bad character, though.

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Originally Posted by justanewguy

Sidney Ponson seems like a pretty bad character, though.

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funny lol I never really got that impression

A lot of reporters seem to be such big jerks that sometimes I think more highly of players that don't get along well with them. ;)

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A lot of reporters seem to be such big jerks that sometimes I think more highly of players that don't get along well with them. ;)

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I'd tend to agree.