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pathetic
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=280903128
Move this team.
So at the last pitch it was 200? LOL
The 400 Braves fans had left
this is a team that has won 2 titles in the last 10 years.
And is often in contention. And has a pretty exciting young team this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman00000001
Since the official and paid attendance was around 11,000, they should consider doing something radical like, maybe letting the first 10,400 people who show up get into the game for free. Or I don't know. I guess they wouldn't know the real attendance until during or after game time. This team needs to increase its fan base somehow, or at least upgrade them from fairweather fans to regular fans.
But you know the minute Tampa Bay starts losing again, the same thing will happen there. And you know if Arizona wasn't a consistently successful team and didn't have the star power they always have, the same thing would be happening there. Montreal was the same way. That place could get full when they were winning ('94).
Colorado is a strange exception to this, though, and always has been. I think it's because they have a great stadium, and the people in Denver make for a great sports fanbase.
What do you mean "going to happen" ? TB attendance is atrocious, they "average" 21K to Fla 16K this year. TB is 26th in total attensance and capacity (51%).
I mean the 600 fan thing. Tampa Bay attendance is horrible, but nothing in all of sports is as bad as the Marlins. And far more paid fans tend to show up in Tampa.Quote:
Originally Posted by gRYFYN1
Montreal was the same way in the past few seasons before they got moved. They often struggled to come up with 1,000 in real attendance.
What is wrong with Florida?? They do know how to read, right? If they don't, I guess that's why they're unaware of the standings....
TwinsGm, you stole my avatar idea!!!!! For a while my avatar was the Red Sox and Rockies Logos combined!!!!!
I..I...Fine! I'll change it! :(
:)
Ok, changed!
Moving the Marlins would be a colossal mistake. There's a huge baseball fan base in Florida, blaming the fans is short sited.
The Marlins have a crappy, old stadium. What's worse is that they have management that drives the fan base away... Then of course, all of this ignores the largest factor of all: "Gustav", and "Hanna".
One thing I cant understand is Miami's population has I believe 45% Cubans or so and then when it comes to hispanic nations about 2/3'rds of the Miami population are hispanics which for the most part especially Cubans are HUGE baseball fans (I am of Cuban descent) so I dont understand why they have SO much trouble getting people inside the stadium is it that they dont play in a retractable roof park? Or is it something else that Im not thinking about?
Bad stadium, management that drives away the fans (although, they do still purchase tickets), and hurricanes. It's pretty easy, for me at least, to see what the problems are.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
This is the biggest one. Also, it's management that doesn't allow a bigger fan base to be built. They will trade away an entire championship team. Players NEVER stick around longer than 3 seasons at most. There is no face of the franchise, and nothing even near resembling one. The team never has an identity, in spite of a very successful history.Quote:
management that drives away the fans (although, they do still purchase tickets),
When I reflect on sentimental memories for me with the Dodgers, I think of Orel Hershiser, Mike Scioscia, Fernando Valenzuela, Ramon Martinez, Eric Karros, etc... Marlin fans don't have benefit from that same kind of sentiment, that you'd look back fondly at seeing Player X doing what he does best, year after year.
This is possibly the most minor thing, but it definitely has an effect.Quote:
and hurricanes.
Overall, (as in considering the entire history), absolutely. Currently, as in right now, I'd say that it's a fairly large factor.Quote:
This is possibly the most minor thing, but it definitely has an effect.