What AJ just did in the Rays game. That was a soccer flop. I've never seen that before. Incredible.
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What AJ just did in the Rays game. That was a soccer flop. I've never seen that before. Incredible.
total bullcrap call
lol I just rewatched that on my DVR- AWFUL call
i agree they really need instant replay because of stuff like that.
What happend? I did not see the game.
In a rundown (In the Chisox-Rays game) AJ threw his arm out an leaned into a fielder, then flopped as if he had been interfered with. I detest soccer nowadays because of crap like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
That's one of the all-time worst calls ever. If that would've happened in the postseason, it would've been right up there with the Yankee HR against Baltimore where that Mayer (sp?) kid caught the ball in play or whatever. Since it happened in the regular season...it'll be forgotten..but that was just beyond stupid. What that umpire could've possibly seen is beyond me.
I hate AJ Perzynski
Does anybody got a video of this incident?
Yeah, I would like to see it as well.
Yep, my sentiments too. And now my regard for him just got lower. That was just one big acting job. That's bullcrap, and too bad it happened on a Sunday when the Rays don't play them again tomorrow. Otherwise, I would love to have seen his first AB after that flop job. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
I actually hate him almost as much as Jeter, and he and Ozzie Guillien are the main reasons that I hate the White Sox. He is a lier, a jerk, an inconsiderate cheapskate who always tries to do stupid stuff like this. I loved it when Michael Barrett punched him in the face. But I hate Barrett too........
Why hate AJ for that? Blame the umpire. AJ is trying to do whatever he can to get his team a win. If he can flop and get away with it, then why not do it? The only blame goes on the ump.
I have always hated AJ. This is not what started it. He has an awful personality, and even a lot of the players hate himQuote:
Originally Posted by Frijolito
While I agree the blame goes on the umps for blowing the call, AJ deserves flak for doing it in the first place. I don't suppose you would suggest blaming the police for not catching a bankrobber and him getting away with it would you? After all, he was just trying to help his family get food and live better. No, that was a lowball play by AJ, and if they had to face each other tomorrow, well, I know what would've happened to him the first time up back in the day. Not so sure these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frijolito
But I would've been watching. :D
LOL. Very funny but not even close to a fair comparision. AJ wasn't commiting a crime. He did nothing illegal. Nothing he did put anyone in danger or made anyone fear for their life. Are you really trying to compare robbing a bank and flopping in a sporting event?? If you believe this you are certifiable.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OldFatGuy
Isn't this the same as a basketball player flopping for a charge, a soccer player flopping for a foul or a football players flopping for a penalty? They do it all the time and officials miss it but you dont complain about that. Why isn't this different? It was a smart play by AJ to get a win for the Sox. Its just like Manu Ginobili flopping for the Spurs.
Well, I can't speak for others, but I DO complain about all that. THAT is precisely the reason I can't stand to watch soccer for any length of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by asianinvasion
*WHO* doesn't complain about diving in soccer? Smart play my ass, and if the nature of the game (Baseball) didn't prohibit such action*, I'd want to see suspensions for that shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by asianinvasion
*By that, I mean Baseball isn't a game where that kind of fakery comes into play much. The most being to pretend to catch a flyball that hit the ground first. I've seen once, just once, a player (in a college game) pretend to be hit with a pitch. He was hopping around and shaking his hand and the ump was having none of it and the announcers thought it was despicable.
At least baseball is a sport where you can police such bs by sending a message hurling behind a players head. Soccer has become so pussyfied it's impossible to send some retribution without getting a red card. Resulting in the kind of clownery we saw six years ago when Rivaldo was hit in the hip and grabbed his head like a sniper shot him. I don't want that fukking clownshoes action anywhere near my sport.
Yeah, you're right, that was a bad comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frijolito
I guess I was just trying to compare right and wrong. I hope you're not saying that anything's alright as long as you don't get caught. There are some actions on the field that are just unacceptable. Yes, the umps blew the call, but this was a lowball move by AJ, and I'd bet if you asked 100 major leaguers whether they thought it was in bad taste on a baseball field, a vast majority would agree.
Just because something's not illegal or you don't caught doesn't mean it should be done. That was a complete acting job just because he found himself in a bad baserunning situation.
And yes, I hate it when basketball players "flop" trying to draw the charge and like others I totally lost interest in the World Cup because of this crap. Everybody out there on a playing field, whatever the sport, is trying their guts out to be successful, and when someone else uses crap like this to try and gain a competitive advantage, it's just not looked upon nicely by their fellow competitors. Ask Shaquile O'Neil how he feels about players "flopping."
Baseball has and to a large extent still is, turning a blind eye to steroids. Soccer may have more "obvious" faults, but I think it's unfair to sweep that under the rug and pretend baseball is a clean sport. To me, cheaters like Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens are just as big as clowns as those soccer floppers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelb1
Pierzynski is the premiere tool amongst a whole box of 'em on the AL Chicago team, but I have to agree with some of the people who posted already: he made a play, fair or not, to help his team, and it payed off. It was Busch league, but it helped his team win.
What's wrong with AJ Pierzynski? There's no reason to hate him...
If the umpires are going to call it, the players will do it. It's that simple.
more importantly... Whats wrong with ozzie :(Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Ozzie is a wackjob, there's plenty reason to hate Ozzie.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
I don't know what's wrong with Pierzynski though.
He is a jerk. Just look at what he said about Magglio Ordonez on his wkipedia page, and all the other stuff he has said. And Perzynski is abnoxious. And Metsguy,you should not be talking. You hate many players and make that very clearQuote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
That is one of the most truly awful calls I have ever seen. You'll notice that Aybar runs into his right shoulder while running towards second. AJ then falls towards third base. How can he have been pushed over? He didn't even fall the right direction. Being a Twins fans this pisses me off even more, because that's why they won.
I like ozzie becaus he tells it how it is (usually not all the time) everyone should be so lucky to have a manager like him that lights a fire when its needed.
And let's not forget the comments Ozzie made to Jay Marrioti.
I kind of want to punch Jay Marrioti....
I agree with Poet. I really like Ozzie. He speaks his mind right or wrong. Aslong as he keeps winning it will be ok. How many of you had Chi even in the race at this point. THe thing about mariotti is that he has a reputation for critizing players/managers and then not having the balls to go in the locker room and face them. As far as the AJ thing. It just seems like alot of whining. Somebody said something about right and wrong. If you want to be the moral police for MLB go ahead. Is sliding hard into 2nd base to try an break up a DP right or wrong?? How about beaning a player in retaliation for something or because he hit Hr against you? Or what about stealing signs, that has been going on forever. Steriod use. Bunting to break up a no- hitter or steaing when you have a 5 run lead or 10 run lead. What about screaming something at the 3B to distract him so he drops the ball. what about the hidden ball trick? What about pretending to have a caught a flyball or pretending you are throwing the ball forcing a baserunner to hesitate? I could go on and on. Point is that their are alot of startegies that go on in baseball or any sport that could be right or wrong depending on your definition. Bottom line the umps blew it so stop whinig and quit trying to be the morality police in baseball.
I really have no problem with Aj's flop, it's completely legal, but the umpire's call was horrendous.
Ozzie is great. When he says things that gets people pissed, he's almost always right.
Agreed...the call was AWFUL. And I think part of the reason people ARE so up in arms about this is because it's AJ, who already has quite a deserved reputation for being a complete and utter dick.
As for Ozzie...I dunno, I think he's a good manager, but it seems like he simply cannot avoid blathering on and on and sparking up another controversy every time he sees a camera these days. I think he's started to buy in to his own hype and become a bit of a media whore. It always seem to be all about Ozzie when things are going well, and he's completely absolved of any blame when things aren't.
This game is on Comcast Sportsnet Chicago if anyone around Chicago wants to see this play
Who said any of that? Talk about comparing apples to oranges.*Quote:
Originally Posted by Frijolito
*As if stealing with a 5 run lead is bad.