Chris Singleton...maybe you had me fooled.
So, I've long said that, while I really hate listening to most of the announcers on Baseball Tonight, Chris Singleton is probably my favorite. Personally, I haven't heard him say anything stupid, but, he did tonight. This article talks about it. Essentially, he said that because Adam Dunn strikes out a lot, he won't post high on-base and slugging percentages.
Which is flat out ridiculously stupid because Adam Dunn routinely posts high on-base and slugging percentages, as do MANY other hitters that strike out a lot. The amount one strikes out has absolutely no correlation with how often he gets on base or hits for power (actually, striking out probably has a correlation with hitting for power. Power hitters tend to strike out MORE).
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Haha Lol, it shows you don't need an education to be on ESPN
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Well, I understand what he is saying, if you strike out a lot, you reduce the change for hitting a homerun. At the same time, a strikeout is just like any other out (if no one is on base)
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Put anyone in front of a microphone for an amount of time an eventually they say something stupid. That goes for anyone. People who have nothing else better to do than break down and critize every little thing that someone says on tv, need to get a life.
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Frijolito
Put anyone in front of a microphone for an amount of time an eventually they say something stupid. That goes for anyone. People who have nothing else better to do than break down and critize every little thing that someone says on tv, need to get a life.
Welcome to the 24-hour news cycle. Fact is that not everything deserves analysis. If you're essentially forced to say something to fill time, chances are that you'll say something silly somewhere along the line.
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boomboom
Well, I understand what he is saying, if you strike out a lot, you reduce the change for hitting a homerun. At the same time, a strikeout is just like any other out (if no one is on base)
What he said, though, is completely and utterly false. If he had said, it keeps his OBP and SLG from being as high as they could be if he was getting more hits, that's one thing, even though it's still a pretty silly thing to say, because the same exact thing can be said for any player. But what he said was not correct, and never will be correct. Dunn's strikeouts do not prevent him from posting high OBP's and SLG's.
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HoustonGM
What he said, though, is completely and utterly false. If he had said, it keeps his OBP and SLG from being as high as they could be if he was getting more hits, that's one thing, even though it's still a pretty silly thing to say, because the same exact thing can be said for any player. But what he said was not correct, and never will be correct. Dunn's strikeouts do not prevent him from posting high OBP's and SLG's.
Well actually his OBP being high is actually linked to his strike outs ... He walks alot simply beacuse he takes alot of pitches (2nd in P/PA), of course that alos puts him in alot of pither counts, but thats the way it is ...
(poor Dak over at FJM ... yet another Adam Dunn hater will make his poor head explode)
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gRYFYN1
Well actually his OBP being high is actually linked to his strike outs ... He walks alot simply beacuse he takes alot of pitches (2nd in P/PA), of course that alos puts him in alot of pither counts, but thats the way it is ...
Yeah, true.
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HoustonGM
What he said, though, is completely and utterly false. If he had said, it keeps his OBP and SLG from being as high as they could be if he was getting more hits, that's one thing, even though it's still a pretty silly thing to say, because the same exact thing can be said for any player. But what he said was not correct, and never will be correct. Dunn's strikeouts do not prevent him from posting high OBP's and SLG's.
I like the Baseball Tonight guys...even Krukie, cause they get passionate at times, and it's just fun. I can filter out or recognize the dumb stuff.
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HoustonGM
What he said, though, is completely and utterly false. If he had said, it keeps his OBP and SLG from being as high as they could be if he was getting more hits, that's one thing, even though it's still a pretty silly thing to say, because the same exact thing can be said for any player. But what he said was not correct, and never will be correct. Dunn's strikeouts do not prevent him from posting high OBP's and SLG's.
How do you get hits when you prevent yourself from putting the ball in play?
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boa
How do you get hits when you prevent yourself from putting the ball in play?
Let me repeat myself - Dunn's strikeouts do not prevent him from posting high OBP and SLG.
Could they be higher if he put the ball in play more? Sure, which is exactly what I said in the post you quoted. But, it does not PREVENT HIM from posting high OBP's and SLG's.
Care to show me how it does? You can't. Because Adam Dunn routinely posts high OBP's and high SLG's, and that's not a matter of opinion.
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I wonder what Chris Singleton's explanation would be for his own OBP having been below average.
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HGM, put up or shut up. Start a baseball blog, do a podcast or something. You probably wouldn't be able to do half as good as these people.
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Um...he did indeed "put up".
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oriole^
Um...he did indeed "put up".
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the episode of Baseball Tonight where HGM was the head analyst, thanks for reminding me.
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metsguy234
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the episode of Baseball Tonight where HGM was the head analyst, thanks for reminding me.
So the fact HGM has no professional baseball experience or connections to ESPN and the ESPN family(which is all that gets on air nowadays) makes him unable to talk about announcers?
LOVE that logic.
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OregonDuck1989
So the fact HGM has no professional baseball experience or connections to ESPN and the ESPN family(which is all that gets on air nowadays) makes him unable to talk about announcers?
LOVE that logic.
Yeah...really...:confused:
And I did a blog, but I'm too lazy to update it often so I stopped.
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Well, HGM, you wouldn't be able to do half the job that the BT guys do...
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metsguy234
Well, HGM, you wouldn't be able to do half the job that the BT guys do...
I wouldn't be able to run a TV show better, probably not, because I don't have much in-person charisma, and I'm not a good public speaker....but in terms of analyzing players, I think that myself along with COUNTLESS other non-TV personalities could do a much better job.
That's because ESPN doesn't choose their "analysts" based on their ability to...oh...I don't know...analyze. They choose their analysts based strictly on their on-screen persona. ESPN employs many people that would give much better analysis than the people they do parade as their "expert analysts", but those people rarely appear on TV, doing mostly internet work (Keith Law, Rob Neyer, Jerry Crasnick, etc.).
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It's actually basic news strategy in this day and age to put you're most attractive, good personalities on camera and the people who actually know things behind it.
I'm taking broadcast television production 301 and we discussed whether this was quality journalism or not.
i said no. it's not but it gets ratings so it's smart journalism.
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OregonDuck1989
i said no. it's not but it gets ratings so it's smart journalism.
Actually, that'd be smart business. I say it's stupid and intellectually limiting journalism.
But that's what the media is nowadays, a business, and little more.
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HoustonGM
Actually, that'd be smart business. I say it's stupid and intellectually limiting journalism.
But that's what the media is nowadays, a business, and little more.
Oops your right that's what I meant to say.
Media has always been a business. Since the 1920's. Yellow Journalism rules.
