Fair enough. As long as your ENTIRE BALLOT isn't Tigers, and the first place vote for each award isn't a Tiger. That's the sort of thing that I'd really like not to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by boa
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Fair enough. As long as your ENTIRE BALLOT isn't Tigers, and the first place vote for each award isn't a Tiger. That's the sort of thing that I'd really like not to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by boa
Can someone remind me...what are the rules about rookies? What I mean is...how many previous innings/at bats does a player need to have had in a season for it to officially be his rookie year?
I know it's 50 IP
130 at-bats, 50 innings pitched or 45 days on the active roster of a major league club (excluding time on the disabled list) before September 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Blast
Any player over any of those thresholds is no longer a rookie.
Excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Pretty fair predictions. I agree with all (so far, as predictions), except NL ROY, which could come down to Soto and Kuroda for me, depending on how the rest of the season goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker
Also AL MVP... I'm not even sure Josh Hamilton is more MVP-worthy than Milton Bradley. Bradley has some sick SABR ratings.
But I'm thinking ARod, Lee, possibly Sizemore, Quentin, Dye, Bradley, maybe Youk...
Aubrey Huff is getting very much overlooked this season, by the way.
Bradley isn't close to Hamilton, and a number of other candidates, for two reasons...1) Zero defensive value and 2) He's missed a lot of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
Right now, my order probably goes Sizemore, Lee, Mauer, A-Rod, Pedroia, Quentin, Youk...or so.Quote:
But I'm thinking ARod, Lee, possibly Sizemore, Quentin, Dye, Bradley, maybe Youk..
I also think Soto is the clear NL Rookie of the Year candidate. .290/.368/.509, 21 HR, 80 RBI, 124 OPS+, good fielding, at catcher...There's actually a couple pitchers that I'd place above Kuroda...Jair Jurrjens without doubt, and John Lannan is arguable.
Hamilton's raw numbers are great. But Bradley puts that team on another level. If the Rangers had any sort of pitching whatsoever, they'd be competing for a wild card spot right now. They'd be close to Boston and Tampa Bay. I think it's even between the 2 as "MVP" right now. I know Bradley's missed time... I wouldn't consider either the MVP. But Bradley is worth noting, because it's the Bradley that is actually living up to his upside. He's an exciting player when he plays like he does this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
If I had to pick an order right now, I'd say, A-Rod, Quentin, Lee, Sizemore, Huff, Morneau, Dye, Halladay, Youk, Mauer. Maybe Bradley and Hamilton on the bubble. Lots of good players in the AL this season. No STANDOUT guy like Pujols. Even Berkman would be possibly winning an AL MVP if he played there. That's how good Pujols is. The AL is going to be an interesting MVP vote in real life and here.Quote:
Right now, my order probably goes Sizemore, Lee, Mauer, A-Rod, Pedroia, Quentin, Youk...or so.
If we go by what the mainstream media's been saying, the NL is going to be an "interesting" vote as well, and that's really sad, because Albert Pujols is clearly above and beyond everybody else. He's so good that he's taken for granted. Nobody is even close to Pujols in the NL this season. Yet there's silly talk about Carlos Delgado winning the NL MVP? What?
It's ridiculous. I hear Ryan Howard and Lance Berkman and David Wright... even Lee or Soriano.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Pujols
(huge gap)
Berkman
(tiny gap)
A-Rod
(tiny gap)
Everyone else
Pujols is the best hitter in baseball, period. By like, a mile. He's the best hitter of this decade, even (Bonds can have the 90s).
It's because the MVP doesn't go to the MVP. The media tries to force it by choosing the best player from the best team, and that just does not work, because sometimes, the best team doesn't have any particularly amazing players, but instead, consists of a well-rounded very good team, like the Cubs. I'm so sick of the media trying to force a Cub to be the MVP. I've seen arguments made on TV for Alfonso Soriano, Aramis Ramirez, Geovany Soto, and even one ridiculous one for Ryan Dempster. It's really silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
Just because the Cardinals aren't in contention anymore doesn't mean that Albert Pujols isn't the most valuable player in the league. Because he is.
This is where I think "contention" shouldn't even be considered. Although, even that would work into Pujols' favor, because that team could win either of the other divisions, and they're playing in baseball's best division. Without him, that team has 20 fewer wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Hm, just curious, you think that the NL Central is the best division in baseball?Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
I think "award" has to go to the AL East, particularly once you account for the difference in league difficult (the NL being the easier league).
Pujols isn't hitting for power this year. Ryan Howard, David Wright, Adam Dunn, Carlos Delgado, Hanley Ramirez, Chase Utley, those are some MVP candidates...
Uh....WHAT? Oh, I forgot, he's just leading the majors in slugging percentage by over 50 pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Ryan Howard, despite his home run and RBI numbers, isn't having a particularly good year. Wright's a candidate, but not better than Pujols. Dunn is underrated, but poor defensively, and not in the discussion. Ramirez and Utley are in the discussion, but a step below Pujols.Quote:
Ryan Howard, David Wright, Adam Dunn, Carlos Delgado, Hanley Ramirez, Chase Utley, those are some MVP candidates...
Carlos Delgado? This is the talk that's irking me more than anything else when it comes to the MVP discussion. People cite his numbers since a certain date....HELLO, the first part of the season counts too.
Carlos Delgado is batting .261/.346/.504 (123 OPS+) with 33 HR and 100 RBI. He doesn't play good defense. Albert Pujols is batting .359/.466/.649 (191 OPS+) with 32 HR and 95 RBI. He plays phenomenal defense. Pujols beats him by nearly 100 points in batting average, over 100 points in on-base percentage, and almost 150 points in slugging percentage. Delgado can't hold Pujols's jockstrap. There is no way to twist the numbers to put Delgado ahead of Pujols. It's just not possible.