Here's what bothers me. His favorite team contains Pedro, Johan Santana, Billy Wagner, Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes, David Wright, Carlos Beltran...
And he fixates on John Maine?
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Here's what bothers me. His favorite team contains Pedro, Johan Santana, Billy Wagner, Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes, David Wright, Carlos Beltran...
And he fixates on John Maine?
You've never focused on one of the supporting guys on a favorite team? I LOVE the muckers in hockey, and the big nose tackles in football.
Au contraire, my favorite player on my favorite team (Red Sox) is Tim Wakefield. Not exactly a first-ballot Hall of Famer.
However, the level of near-worship of John Maine is quite astonishing, considering the number of multi-time All-Stars on that roster.
I'll grant you he is an interesting choice.
Metsguy, if you do read this, how did you come to worship at the altar of John Maine?
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Originally Posted by justanewguy
I'm not even sure Guillen would come in third place.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Rays expected to be good & compete for the division this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
Gardenhire would get my vote, barring a mega colapse in the last month. The Twins weren't supposed to do jack this year after losing their best pitcher & hitter in the offseason.
Gardenhire and Maddon and maybe Scosia deserve the award in the Al. In the NL, Lou Pinella, or Freddy Gonzalez seem like good canidates. Tony LaRussa has done well with a bad team as well.
I don't think the Rays were expected to "compete." They were expected to be good, but I don't think that many people expected them to hang with the Sox, Yankess, or even the Blue Jays, let alone top that division and often have the best record in all of baseball.
Ron Gardenhire is a strong candidate for sure, as would be Ozzie Guillen (same circumstances, both were expected to be crushed by the Tigers and Indians). But the Twins are a competitive team every year, and the Sox are only a few years removed from a World Series title (with most of those players intact).
But come on... the first winning season in the franchise's history? Winning the AL East? Possibly the best record in baseball?
I'd be truly stunned if Maddon didn't win the real life award.
No they the Rays were expected to be better and get over .500 for the season ..Quote:
Originally Posted by etothep
but no one thought they'd win the divsion or make the playoffs
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/previe...=08expertpicks
That's 26 people predicting and no one had the Rays ....
Depends on who you talk to. Everybody expected them to improve greatly and play around .500. A number of people, usually the more analytical type, expected them to compete with Boston and New York. I'd say very few people expected them to be competing for the best record in baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by etothep
It's also ESPN ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gRYFYN1
PECOTA's predictions had the Rays winning 88 games. A number of other "sabermetric" types agreed with roughly that much. As I said, that's "competing" and being in the playoff discussion, but, yeah, nobody expected them to be THIS good.
Any input on the amount of players listed on each ballot?
Looks good to me, but all the GGs and SSs are going to turn into huge lists and add some work to the process when things are being tallied.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
What's the point system breakdown for ranks on everything?
I'll handle that.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
I haven't decided that yet. I have to look further at how the real life MVP/Cy Young/ROY points are distributed.Quote:
What's the point system breakdown for ranks on everything?
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Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Maybe 10-12?
Check the first post. I have numbers listed for each different award.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
Not complaining or anything, but 10 seems high for MVP (or any award for that matter) Enjoy counting all those votes Houston!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM