Piazza Hall of Fame Poll

Lol.....

Seriously- who doubted that Piazza will go to the HOF??? He is the best player within the past twenty years (twenty years ago was near the end of Fisk and Carter's careers) at his position, almost unarguably (unless you create a killer argument for Ivan "The Traitor" Rodriguez).

Piazza's legacy is great, and he was a great team player and fan favorite.Sadly, some opposing fans(read:The Stankee Bandwagon: AKA Yankee Fans) said ridiculous and mean things about him (spreading rumors that he was gay, not that being gay is bad, but it wasn't true...), and it must suck to have to go through people who basically know nothing about you to be saying ridiculous and incredibly stupid things about you.

Actually, I'm fairly sure that it's not a lock. He's hardly going to get 100% of the vote on the first ballot that he's on.

Why is this so important to you, anyway?

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Originally Posted by ohms_law

Actually, I'm fairly sure that it's not a lock. He's hardly going to get 100% of the vote on the first ballot that he's on.

Why is this so important to you, anyway?

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Well, no one gets 100%. Seaver came the closest, but we can't help but ask: Who thought Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Cal Ripken, Tony Gwynn, Yogi Berra, Mickey Mantle, Stan Musial, etc. weren't Hall of fame worthy?

And it is important because Piazza was my hero when I was a kid. Do you really think he does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Seriously- who doubted that Piazza will go to the HOF??? He is the best player within the past twenty years (twenty years ago was near the end of Fisk and Carter's careers) at his position, almost unarguably (unless you create a killer argument for Ivan "The Traitor" Rodriguez).

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You can easily create an argument that Ivan Rodriguez was a more valuable overall player than Mike Piazza.

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Sadly, some opposing fans(read:The Stankee Bandwagon: AKA Yankee Fans) said ridiculous and mean things about him (spreading rumors that he was gay, not that being gay is bad, but it wasn't true...), and it must suck to have to go through people who basically know nothing about you to be saying ridiculous and incredibly stupid things about you.

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Kinda sounds familiar, doesn't it? :rolleyes:

Mike Piazza is completely deserving of the Hall of Fame, and he'll make it in.

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Originally Posted by ohms_law

Assuming that he's actually elected and that the board does the logical thing and accepts whatever he would prefer (and that he would have a preference himself),

Plus he started his career there. And then of course there was the reception that he received when he first arrived in NY. I remember going to a game in Shea in '98 or '99 where the fans just wouldn't let up on him.

Anyway, blood is thicker than water and all of that, and LaSorda's bleeds Dodger Blue...

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That's why I think he'll go in as a Dodger too. Drafting him as the LAST player in the 1988 draft and him having the career he had would be like drafting a 53/59 scrub in the 6th round of Baseball Mogul and turning into a superstar. It's really unbelievable when you think about that more, especially since they don't even have 62 rounds of the draft anymore.

I think he'll go in as a Met.

Dodger

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Seriously- who doubted that Piazza will go to the HOF??? He is the best player within the past twenty years (twenty years ago was near the end of Fisk and Carter's careers) at his position, almost unarguably (unless you create a killer argument for Ivan "The Traitor" Rodriguez).

Piazza's legacy is great, and he was a great team player and fan favorite.Sadly, some opposing fans(read:The Stankee Bandwagon: AKA Yankee Fans) said ridiculous and mean things about him (spreading rumors that he was gay, not that being gay is bad, but it wasn't true...), and it must suck to have to go through people who basically know nothing about you to be saying ridiculous and incredibly stupid things about you.

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Thru most of their careers, I would have agreed that Piazza was clearly better than Rodriguez, but in the end it's going to be closer than I though it would be, simply because I-Rod, taking his career as a whole, became a lot better hitter than I thought he'd be. I still think Piazza rates an edge, but it's closer than I thought it would be.

Not sure that Nomo would agree that Piazza was a great team player.

Gotta disagree with ohm's--Piazza is a lock, unless he decides to follow Pete
Rose's footsteps.

I-Rod's going into the Hall, too. Neither one will break Seaver's record for percentage of the vote.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Seriously- who doubted that Piazza will go to the HOF??? He is the best player within the past twenty years (twenty years ago was near the end of Fisk and Carter's careers) at his position, almost unarguably (unless you create a killer argument for Ivan "The Traitor" Rodriguez).

Piazza's legacy is great, and he was a great team player and fan favorite.Sadly, some opposing fans(read:The Stankee Bandwagon: AKA Yankee Fans) said ridiculous and mean things about him (spreading rumors that he was gay, not that being gay is bad, but it wasn't true...), and it must suck to have to go through people who basically know nothing about you to be saying ridiculous and incredibly stupid things about you.

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I voted no for Piazza. Remember Sosa, Clemens, Bonds & Piazza will all be first timers the same year. It's a tired argument I know. But the big steriod cloud hanging over his name leads me to believe he won't get in. At least not for awhile. And having those three guys as 1st timers as well will only magnify it. Also in my opinion he should go in as a Dodger if he makes it.

The big steroid cloud hanging over his name??

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

The big steroid cloud hanging over his name??

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That's what I was wondering...

His name has not been involved with any steroid rumors...so, if anything, being on a ballot with Clemens, Bonds, and Sosa (who, also, by the way, has never been connected to steroids in any remote way at all) will only serve to INCREASE his vote totals. As stupid as that sounds, that's how the BBWAA functions.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

That's what I was wondering...

His name has not been involved with any steroid rumors...so, if anything, being on a ballot with Clemens, Bonds, and Sosa (who, also, by the way, has never been connected to steroids in any remote way at all) will only serve to INCREASE his vote totals. As stupid as that sounds, that's how the BBWAA functions.

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Agree, i dont understand that comment at all.

Piazza is on the ballot w 2 guys w HUGE steroid clouds,
the other simply had a lot of rumor following him about it, as i recall.
If anything that should help Piazza ALOT not hurt him.

As for the dodger met thing, it really could go either way.

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Originally Posted by MeetDaMets

the other simply had a lot of rumor following him about it, as i recall.

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The only evidence against Sosa is a) he got big and b) he hit a lot of home runs.

There's been nothing connecting him with any steroid dealers...not even anything connecting him with any of the players that were big into the steroid stuff like Jose Canseco. There's literally nothing against him that we know of, and yet, everybody lumps him in with the known steroid users and the steroid users that have mountains of evidence against them...JUST because he bulked up and hit a lot of home runs...People don't care that such a thing IS possible without steroids.

It's a shame that a lot of people with natural talent (such as Sammy Sosa) who happened, through no fault of their own, to play in the 90s and early 2000s, now have dark rumor clouds hanging over their heads.