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And in a pitchers park.Quote:
To be honest, Bay has been basically just as productive, on a worse team, this season as Ramirez has.
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As a whole I agree somewhat but in a big playoff spot with RISP its a no-brainer who I want at the plate. Not even close.
Exactly, and in a worse lineup with lower quality protection around him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
(I know he had Nady for a while, but Nady and the rest of the boys on the Pirates are not even close to what Manny has had around him with Drew and Youk and Lowell and the rest of the good/great hitters on the Red Sox.)
That's what they said about the 83 win Cardinals in 2006. "No way they get through the Mets, or through the far superior AL, with that lineup and rotation."Quote:
Originally Posted by Reade
But they did.
If you get into the playoffs you have a chance...
thanks sherlock. I'll pass it along :pQuote:
Originally Posted by filihok
lol
:rolleyes:
The whole 5 and 7 game series' are kinda flukey anyway. A terrible team can beat a great team 3 out of 5 or 4 outta 7 times.
what do you propose? whats enough to equal it out? 9, 11,13, 21?Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
Nothing. The point still remains that the playoffs don't provide any determination of the "best" team. The regular season certainly does... the playoffs determine the winner though, which in the end is all that really matters anyway.
As Ohms said, 5 and 7 is fine. But because Team A beats Team B in the 11th inning of game 7 in no way means Team A is better.
Unless they actually are ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
From the Boston side of this, how does everyone think Bay will react to being in a pennant race? Because how Bay reacts to being in this pennant race will be huge in really evaluating this trade.
Personally, I think he'll do great in the pennant race. I think he'll be extremely motivated to be in a pennant race and he'll play just as well, if not better, than he has all season. I think he'll embrace the Boston spotlight and do very, very well with the team.
I think he'll play better than Manny. Which kills me. :(
well honestly how he reacts "should be minimal " now that he has 6+ years of MLB play/clutch at bats etc.Question is how the FANS react if/when he slumps & how he handles EXTRA baseball fervour in Boston (Manny's great let down & "supposed" cause of his "Mannyness".Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
The more I look at the deal the MORE I dont understand the Dodgers' motivation - OK a 2 month free rental of one of the most productive batter's in the game but giving up a 24 year old top prospect & their 2006 1st rounder seems awfully a lot FOR A POSSIBLE CAUSE of distraction....Still say the Pirates did great - cut costs,got 2 starters,a nice set up man & Morris - may compete in 2010+
I got in a terrible debate this afternoon with a Yankee fan who screamed that the Boston ownership just cursed the Red Sox for another 86 years trading away our best hitter.
But Jason Bay is not 119,000 dollars I said. He is not a musical.
Some Sox fans have jumped ship for the season. I'm not a huge sox fan but I have family in Cape Cod so I have some tearing to them.
I think the trade will equal out. Jason Bay is a damn good hitter. We will see if he can impact the race for the AL East, I think he will.
I think what the Yankees did was smart, too. I think the Rays didn't get it done but they are playing pretty well as is so we'll see if they can keep it up.
All I know, if the Yanks make the playoffs I'm out 20 bucks. So Go Sox, Twins, Rays, and White Sox.
One of those teams needs to win the wild card.