LOL, I've HAMMERED Manny's attitude on this board for two years, and usually I got hammered right back by Sox fans, reading this thread I can't help but Laugh Out Loud.
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LOL, I've HAMMERED Manny's attitude on this board for two years, and usually I got hammered right back by Sox fans, reading this thread I can't help but Laugh Out Loud.
It won't cost Boston any draft picks. Whoever signs MR in the offeason will lose two picks to LA assuming they offer arbitration, which they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
I expect either Pierre and/or Andruw Jones to get moved in a waiver wire deal, with LA eating most or all of their contracts.
There's not a team on this PLANET that's going to touch Andruw Jones, unless the Dodgers were going pay his salary NEXT season too.
EDIT: Whoops, I misread your statement, I see you were talking about the Dodgers eating the entire contract, not just this seasons salary. Sorry.
I'm pretty sure Jones contract is a one year deal, not positive on that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldFatGuy
LOL, I thought it was two. But I never know where to look to find out contract info. I still think it was a two year, $36 Million deal.
Jones does have a 2 year deal.
Wow...you know, it's not a bad trade all around. Even though LA already had a surplus of outfielders, let's face it, Pierre isn't an everyday guy, and Jones is AWFUL...and they needed the power bat. It's a nice move for Boston, and Pittsburgh picks up a nice load of serious prospects.
Red Sox lose their cancer cell. Might turn out to the best for them.
The best contracts site I know of. Bookmark this. I look at it constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldFatGuy
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Andruw Jones of
2 years/$36.2M (2008-09)
signed as a free agent 12/07
$12.2M signing bonus ($5.1M in 2008, $2.1M in 2009, $5M in 2010)
08:$9M, 09:$15M
no-trade clause
perks: suite on road
Jones to donate $0.15M annually to club charity
6 years/$75M (2002-07) (Atlanta)
$3M signing bonus
02:$9.5M, 03:$11.5M, 04:$12M, 05:$12.5M, 06:$13M, 07:$13.5M
signed multi-year extension after 2001 season
1 year/$8.2M (2001), won arbitration ($8.2M-$6.4M) (record award)
1 year/$3.7M (2000)
1 year/$0.33M (1999)
1 year/$0.215M (1998)
1 year/$0.1525M (1997)
agent: Scott Boras
ML service: 11.047
I know Manny won't be in tonight's lineup for LA, but is Bay in the Red Sox lineup tonight, does anyone know?
EDIT: Never mind, didn't realize the Red Sox don't play tonight :D.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Blast
Fili's useless take:
Dodgers: Definately helps this year. Concerns-Kent and Ramirez fighting over "playing the game the right way". Jeff Kemp thinking Manny's his big brother and emmulating him. LaRoche should be a quite a player down the road. Maybe not that far down the road.
RedSox: Got rid of Manny. Bay is a suitable replacement. They SHOULD have got bullpen help instead they lost Hansen. Plenty of relivers should be available on waivers though.
Pirates: Got a pretty good haul of prospects.
In honor of the olympics
Gold-Pirates
Silver-Sox
Bronze-Dodgers
Thanks man, it is now bookmarked. I always wanted to find out stuff like that, and I could never find it on Baseball Reference dot com. (That, ESPN, and a couple of forums are really my only "internets" experience, lol, oh and MLB.COM)Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
I THINK you mean Matt cos Jeff is a little passed it ,no ? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by filihok
:) Yeah. Matt Kemp...JEFF Kent. Got it nowQuote:
Originally Posted by FRENCHREDSOX
I agree. This was sure surprising though. The Dodgers came out of left field on this one... (pun completely intentional)Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
;)
Just for fun I compared pre- & post- Manny trade results:
Pre Manny
BELOW is the average of 30 sims
Code:30 SEASONS SIMULATED
EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Baltimore 75.28 86.72 1 0 0 0 1 1 6 7 15
Boston 95.10 66.90 8 1 9 20 6 7 2 0 0
New York 86.24 75.76 1 3 1 6 5 9 8 6 0
Tampa Bay 83.45 78.62 0 0 3 3 5 10 9 6 1
Toronto 76.00 86.00 0 0 2 0 2 2 4 10 13
CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 78.21 83.79 0 0 1 6 0 4 9 4 6
Cleveland 82.31 79.72 2 1 2 8 3 8 2 5 6
Detroit 78.52 83.48 1 0 2 4 1 8 4 5 8
Kansas City 77.14 84.90 0 0 1 1 1 4 7 10 7
Minnesota 83.07 78.97 1 1 2 10 2 5 7 5 2
WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Los Angeles 88.97 73.07 5 3 4 19 1 5 5 0 0
Oakland 78.34 83.66 0 1 0 2 0 10 9 8 0
Seattle 75.38 86.69 0 0 1 2 2 8 6 13 0
Texas 76.76 85.38 0 0 1 6 0 6 9 8 0
EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Atlanta 82.79 79.24 0 1 2 2 4 6 13 8 0
Florida 75.72 86.28 0 0 1 1 0 1 7 14 6
New York 90.72 71.28 3 6 5 15 5 11 1 2 0
Philadelphia 90.52 71.48 0 3 5 11 3 11 7 0 0
Washington 66.69 95.31 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 23
CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 83.48 78.59 2 0 2 5 0 8 4 4 8
Cincinnati 72.59 89.41 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 4 21
Houston 79.17 82.86 0 2 0 3 1 4 7 4 11
Milwaukee 80.00 82.03 1 0 0 4 0 0 8 5 12
Pittsburgh 81.31 80.76 0 1 0 4 3 7 3 10 5
St. Louis 89.38 72.69 1 0 6 13 4 9 4 2 1
WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Arizona 90.14 71.90 1 4 4 15 4 9 4 1 0
Colorado 75.93 86.07 0 0 0 0 0 3 10 9 7
Los Angeles 89.00 73.03 2 2 4 12 3 10 5 2 0
San Diego 79.41 82.62 0 0 0 2 2 7 8 7 5
San Francisco 68.79 93.21 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 17
Post Manny (same settings as above but Manny deadline deals included)
as can be seen doesnt really affect Sox much THIS YEAR but Dodgers EDGE the D Backs & Pirates suffer the most losing their MAIN power bat.Code:20 SEASONS SIMULATED
EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Baltimore 75.60 86.45 0 0 2 1 1 1 4 5 9
Boston 93.20 68.80 7 5 2 15 3 3 1 0 1
New York 87.25 74.75 3 0 1 4 5 6 6 4 0
Tampa Bay 84.15 77.90 1 0 1 0 8 10 5 1 4
Toronto 75.35 86.65 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 10 6
CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 77.10 84.90 0 0 0 2 0 5 4 5 4
Cleveland 82.45 79.55 0 1 3 8 1 5 3 1 3
Detroit 79.30 82.70 1 0 2 4 0 1 7 2 6
Kansas City 77.95 84.05 0 0 1 3 0 4 3 6 4
Minnesota 80.75 81.25 1 1 1 3 2 5 3 6 3
WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Los Angeles 87.90 74.15 0 0 6 17 0 1 0 2 0
Oakland 77.90 84.10 0 0 1 2 0 6 6 6 0
Seattle 76.65 85.35 0 0 0 0 0 6 8 6 0
Texas 77.00 85.05 0 0 0 1 0 7 6 6 0
EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Atlanta 82.55 79.50 0 1 1 2 2 3 7 8 0
Florida 78.35 83.65 0 0 0 1 0 4 5 9 1
New York 89.40 72.65 1 1 2 6 4 8 5 1 0
Philadelphia 92.15 69.85 1 5 2 11 3 5 3 1 0
Washington 67.75 94.25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 19
CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 86.60 75.40 2 3 0 9 1 5 2 3 1
Cincinnati 72.45 89.55 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 4 14
Houston 78.35 83.70 0 0 1 1 0 2 8 1 8
Milwaukee 78.65 83.35 0 0 0 0 0 3 5 7 5
Pittsburgh 75.40 86.60 0 0 0 2 0 1 2 5 10
St. Louis 88.85 73.20 1 0 4 8 2 9 1 0 2
WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Arizona 90.15 71.85 0 1 6 11 2 6 1 2 0
Colorado 79.40 82.60 0 0 0 0 1 2 10 5 3
Los Angeles 91.40 70.60 2 2 4 9 5 10 1 0 0
San Diego 77.40 84.60 0 0 0 0 0 2 7 6 5
San Francisco 66.80 95.20 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 12