How come....

its the trade deadline, and of the teams that are sellers there is one being completely ignored??

That would be because the Washington Nationals are so freaken bad they can't make it to the level of sellers.:eek:

This team is a joke, and as long as the Orioles get their TV money and Jim Bowden runs the team, they will continue to be a joke. They might as well have stayed in Montreal.

But seriously, don't the Dodgers need a shortstop?? Why isn't there at least some rumor of Guzman to the Dodgers? (Yeah, I know he just signed an extension, but sometimes that actually increases value). I mean I know that Furcal will be back next year, but will Kent?? I really wonder why Colletti isn't considering something like this.

And I'm wondering if Paul LoDuca might be available. He might provide some value for some team, yet I hear nothing. I hear absolutely no mention whatsoever of the Nationals. I guess they really are that pathetic.

Ronnie Belliard is another possibility in my mind. Not a great player, but a serviceable backup IF if theres a need somewhere. Again, no rumors or anything.

Totally unbelievable. Not three minutes after I posted this, I heard the Nationals mentioned. Totally unbelievable.

And who was mentioned??? JUST THERE BEST YOUNG PITCHER SO FAR THIS YEAR. John Lannen (not sure of spelling) to the White Sox???

OMFG, JIM #*&($%#(*&#(**&(#*(&# BOWDEN SHOULD BE SHOT if this goes through.

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

its the trade deadline, and of the teams that are sellers there is one being completely ignored??

That would be because the Washington Nationals are so freaken bad they can't make it to the level of sellers.:eek:

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I heard the White Sox and Nats are on the verge of a deal for John Lannan.

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But seriously, don't the Dodgers need a shortstop?? Why isn't there at least some rumor of Guzman to the Dodgers?

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Probably because the Dodgers and Nationals aren't talking about him ;)

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(Yeah, I know he just signed an extension, but sometimes that actually increases value).

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Signing an extension would indicate that Bowden thinks Guzman is a part of his future plans.

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I mean I know that Furcal will be back next year, but will Kent??

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Both are free agents at the end of the year.

lol OFG, I feel sorry for you rooting for those clowns.

Tim Redding...you'd think somebody could use him.

I wouldn't have minded Guzman in L.A. if we could have got him at the same rate the DBacks got Rauch.

The Nats don't have much to sell.

Furcal is too?? I thought I heard somewhere they still had an option on him somewhere. Oh well, my bad, for some reason I thought they had one more year with him.

Well, then, a deal for Guzman would make even more sense then.

:eek:2 Years and $16 million for Guzman.

The Nats don't need TV revenue. They're too busy trying to rape DC over the stadium.

Hey, the Nats made a deal.

Nationals acquired shortstop Alberto Gonzalez from the Yankees for RHP Johnny Nunez.

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Originally Posted by CatKnight

The Nats don't need TV revenue. They're too busy trying to rape DC over the stadium.

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They already raped DC over the stadium, they're just going for seconds. :D

But, maybe if they got their own TV revenue, they wouldn't have felt the need to go for seconds. When I first heard about them going after this $100,000 a day or whatever I was disgusted, then I was even more demoralized because it suddenly occurred to me their money problems from little TV revenue might be even worse than I first thought.

I think for every MLB team, TV money is a BIG part of their functioning revenue. The fact that the Orioles get theirs (or at least most of it, up to 90%) and the fact that they are the ONLY MLB team that his this constriction, really means their revenue streams have to be considered non-competitive.

I've said earlier (and never would've thought I would've said it after the heartbreak of losing my beloved Senators), the only thing worse than not having a team is having one that is doomed to be forever competitively disadvantaged.

The only joy I get out of the whole situation is that even receiving TV revenue from TWO teams the Orioles still suck. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
:D :D :D :D :D

Hm, OFG, can you explain this situation to me? The Orioles get the money that the Nats games on TV produce? Hm?

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Hm, OFG, can you explain this situation to me? The Orioles get the money that the Nats games on TV produce? Hm?

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The Nats don't produce, all Nats games are on MASN, owned by Peter Angelos. And yes, all Orioles games on that channel too.

Ah, got it.

That was part of the deal in the move. It was the only way that Angelos would "let them into his market"...
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Take heart though OFG. You'll have some lean years watching the Nats, for sure, but their in some pretty darn good company with deals like this. The NJ Devils had to put up with the same sort of deal, for example.

Just got back from the game. Saw Bonifacio. He looked way over matched. Not that I'm an expert scout but he was way late on just about every pitch thrown to him. He did have a solid single against a drawn in infield, but in four AB's he stood out as not looking like a major league baseball player.

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Just got back from the game. Saw Bonifacio. He looked way over matched. Not that I'm an expert scout but he was way late on just about every pitch thrown to him. He did have a solid single against a drawn in infield, but in four AB's he stood out as not looking like a major league baseball player.

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Well, that explains why he's playing for the Washington Nationals. And to think Bowden released Paul LoDuca and Felipe Lopez to make room for him. :eek:

I just wonder why it took him so long to release LoDuca when he has Wil Nieves and Jesus Flores on the roster, both of whom have performed better. Or why he gave up Brian Schnieder in the first place.

I still say there will be a World Series trophy in DC before Baltimore. Especially with Angelos running the O's. He's lucky there's Jeffery Loria, or he'd be the worst owner in American professional sports.

What else can you say about a man who in one year signed Sammy Sosa, Miguel Tejada, Rafael Palmeiro, and Javy Lopez, and then was mystified when injuries and off-the-field issues tore his team apart in July?

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I just wonder why it took him so long to release LoDuca when he has Wil Nieves and Jesus Flores on the roster, both of whom have performed better. Or why he gave up Brian Schnieder in the first place.

I still say there will be a World Series trophy in DC before Baltimore. Especially with Angelos running the O's. He's lucky there's Jeffery Loria, or he'd be the worst owner in American professional sports.

What else can you say about a man who in one year signed Sammy Sosa, Miguel Tejada, Rafael Palmeiro, and Javy Lopez, and then was mystified when injuries and off-the-field issues tore his team apart in July?

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pffft, Angelos isn't in Loria's ballpark. At least Loria knows how to win.

Well, true enough that Angelos has destroyed everything we had as a team (you forgot Albert Belle) :mad: But the Nationals getting a champeenship before the O's? With Bowden at the helm? Yagottabekiddin.

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pffft, Angelos isn't in Loria's ballpark. At least Loria knows how to win.

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And then promptly trade off the entire team.

I'm seriously sick of the ballpark whining. They have a stadium that seats 50,000. It's not falling apart. It's not even that old. And it's certainly not the worst park in the majors.

If it's such a bad park, how come they won two World Series, while the Pirates, Orioles, Mariners, and every other team to have a shiny new imitation Fenway/Wrigley built in the last ten years haven't even sniffed a pennant?

The ballpark has nothing to do with winning the World Series...:p

Are you talking about Florida?

Yes. The ballpark impacts revenue, which impacts payroll, which impacts talent on the field, or at least the ability to retain talent. I thought that was Loria's whole argument, that he couldn't field a competitive team because he couldn't afford the salaries necessary, because he couldn't make any money off his ballpark?

That's what Loria says. He has to be pocketing tons of money, because Florida gets a ton in revenue sharing. He's a scumbag.

The Marlins DO need a new ballpark though, in my opinion. That place is not built for baseball.

Certainly. But it doesn't keep them from fielding a competitive team.

You're right.

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That's what Loria says. He has to be pocketing tons of money, because Florida gets a ton in revenue sharing. He's a scumbag.

The Marlins DO need a new ballpark though, in my opinion. That place is not built for baseball.

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They are getting one aren't they? On the old site of the Orange Bowl is what I read. But they have to change their name to the Miami Marlins.

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I just wonder why it took him so long to release LoDuca when he has Wil Nieves and Jesus Flores on the roster, both of whom have performed better. Or why he gave up Brian Schnieder in the first place.

I still say there will be a World Series trophy in DC before Baltimore. Especially with Angelos running the O's. He's lucky there's Jeffery Loria, or he'd be the worst owner in American professional sports.

What else can you say about a man who in one year signed Sammy Sosa, Miguel Tejada, Rafael Palmeiro, and Javy Lopez, and then was mystified when injuries and off-the-field issues tore his team apart in July?

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Well, here's a better question. WTF did he trade his BEST bullpen arm for Benewhothehellever in the first damn place??? Answer me that one, and I might entertain the notion that we'll have a trophy before Baltimore.

Jim Bowden is an idiot. True, I'm an idiot too, but I'm not running a MLB ballclub. Jim Bowden is. Why Jim Bowden is is beyond even my idiotic imagination.

Of course the owners aren't all that bright either. They boot Robinson and keep Bowden (personally I would've gotten rid of both, but if I had to pick just one to go, it would've been Bowden), and then make this incredibly stupid "I want $100,000 per game the stadium wasn't officially finished" claim, when as far as I know, they got to play all of their games there. Talk about a brilliant PR move, that one ranks right up there.

There's worse GMs than Bowden, believe it or not...