Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

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Originally Posted by knicks0929

Last year, NL Cy Young Jake Peavy faced 898 batters. A normal MVP candidate gets something like 650 plate appearances. Which of the two impacts more plays?

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Defense could be factored in as well. And pitcher at bats.

Now, if someone wants to argue that an AL pitcher can't win the MVP cause he's only half a player...i'd hear that arguement. :)

Something to look at is how many strikes to balls he has thrown. When watching him against Seattle, (now seattle is known for having some hackers), he had thrown 38 strikes and 7 balls in the 5th innings. I was just like WOW! I actually wrote about Lee in thebbreport, I wrote about Lee about 8 days ago in a brief Blog post....

http://thebbreport.blogspot.com/2008/07/cliff-lee.html

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Originally Posted by filihok

Now, if someone wants to argue that an AL pitcher can't win the MVP cause he's only half a player...i'd hear that arguement. :)

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Yes, an NL pitcher making 70 or so at bats makes him DOUBLE the player an AL pitcher is! :eek:

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

The only reason Lee has a shot is because of the relative lack of outstanding position players in the AL this year. The NL has no shortage of them.

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Really?
Hamilton may wind up with a 900 OPS 40 HR 160 RBI

Morneau has played every game leads his team hit, doubles, homeruns, RBI, Slugging and OPS and is 2nd in OBP and runs.

Arod is havinf a Ho hum 300/400/600 season.

Dye is OPSing 950 with and will wind up with 35 HR/100+RBI

Quentin may outperfom him,

There are ALOT of Great players in AL, just they aren;t on the Sox or Yanks so no on pays attention.

There's certainly very good players in the AL, but it's not hard to see that the NL clearly has a better crop of position players this year. I'm not saying that Cliff Lee is going to end up actually amassing the most value of any player in the AL, just saying that he has a shot.

For what it's worth, currently, he's third in the AL in VORP with 48.7, behind Ian Kinsler (51.3) and teammate Grady Sizemore (48.8). Alex Rodriguez is next at 45.8.

The way Josh Hamilton is playing, I REALLY doubt it.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

There's certainly very good players in the AL, but it's not hard to see that the NL clearly has a better crop of position players this year. I'm not saying that Cliff Lee is going to end up actually amassing the most value of any player in the AL, just saying that he has a shot.

For what it's worth, currently, he's third in the AL in VORP with 48.7, behind Ian Kinsler (51.3) and teammate Grady Sizemore (48.8). Alex Rodriguez is next at 45.8.

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Which, considering those players' defensive contributions, makes Lee vastly less valuable than each of the other three.

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Originally Posted by knicks0929

Which, considering those players' defensive contributions, makes Lee vastly less valuable than each of the other three.

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Kinsler's been pretty poor defensively. Sizemore's been good. Taking defense into account, I'd rank them Sizemore-Lee-Kinsler, but I wouldn't give Sizemore a VAST lead.