Chacon beats up Ed Wade, gets suspended?

anyone have any more detailed information on this?

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/ar...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

First Dunn and Riccardi exchange words TMZ-style through the media...and now Chacon just stomps Wade, right in his office?

side note: will Astros fans like Chacon less for this, or more for beating up their silly GM?

side side note: if you look at the Astros batting stats, and sort by batting average, 2 of the top 3 in batting average are pitchers. Berkman is second, with his team-leading homers, walks, RBIs, OBP, etc. Cassel is just a small sample size fluke, but Backe...man, I'd throw him in the outfield or something.

History of Ed Wade side note: This is interesting.

Like Chacon said, you better know who your yelling and cussing at because not every is scared of their boss.

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"I'm not getting into the details. It's an internal matter," Wade said.

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Internal my butt, you got your *ss kicked

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0758509.html

Kinda goes along with this.

My favorite line from the coverage of this story is from the AP article on it:

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Chacon is concerned that he might not pitch in the majors again.

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Yeah, there aren't many businesses where beating up your boss helps out your future prospects.

Now he's been put on waivers...

Houston's being generous if he's on waivers. I would have left him suspended, or failing that sit him in the bullpen and just not use him. (Unless I had the option to stuff him on my Rookie league club and leave him there.)

I think Chacon's done. I dunno if Wade did provoke it or not ... it's hard to imagine a GM going off like that ... but even so, turning it into a physical confrontation? Instant blacklist.

From The Sporting News
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=428169

Choking GM likely ends Shawn Chacon's career

HOUSTON -- It was both frightening and surreal to those who saw it. Houston Astros pitcher Shawn Chacon rose from his chair, wrapped his hands around general manager Ed Wade's throat and threw him to the floor.

After all the tantrums and all the dumb stuff and all the people who have forgiven Chacon through the years, he finally crossed the line Wednesday. He might long regret the day he likely ended his own big league career.

Chacon did it himself. He'll look for scapegoats. He'll blame others. He'll look everywhere except the mirror. That's what people like Chacon always do.

In the end, though, everything that has happened to Shawn Chacon has been because of Shawn Chacon. This incident can't be forgiven or forgotten. Not by the Astros. Not by any other club.

Wade had approached Chacon and requested a meeting after the pitcher lashed out at Astros manager Cecil Cooper for demoting him to the bullpen.

Chacon refused. He challenged Wade to say what he had to say. Wade did. Loudly.

This wasn't Wade's finest hour, either. To ask for a meeting is one thing. To resort to yelling and cursing reflects a lack of maturity on Wade's part as well. Some who have known Wade through the years have thought he had a large streak of insecurity and a little man's complex.

Maybe this moment is a reflection of how far a once successful franchise has fallen.

Once upon a time, the Astros were Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio. They played the game a certain way. They represented professionalism and winning. Now with a farm system in disarray and a major league roster that's a patchwork of pieces from other organizations, the Astros are an absolute mess.

The Astros were perfectly justified in suspending Chacon, and then later releasing him, but owner Drayton McLane would be equally justified in asking some hard questions about Wade's behavior. Wade's yelling doesn't give Chacon an excuse to resort to violence, but it's no way a general manager should behave.

If Chacon had only argued or yelled or used words things would be different.

Regardless, the Astros signed Chacon knowing there was the potential for trouble. He'd worn out his welcome at a few stops along the way but apparently never had done anything like this. He's one of those guys with all kinds of talent, but a guy who always seems to disappoint.

He got off to a nice start for the Astros but had a 6.66 ERA in his past 10 starts and a 9.35 ERA in his past four. He simply didn't deserve to keep his spot in the rotation.

Wade took a $2 million gamble on Chacon because he was desperate. He hoped Chacon would be productive on the field and behave off the field. He was productive for a while, but things began to come apart when he threw a tantrum on the mound in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago.

Chacon hadn't pitched well, and when he was sent to the bullpen he made every effort to get himself suspended. Wade obliged him Wednesday.

If you're McLane, you're also perfectly within your rights to ask, "Say, Ed, what made you think we were going to get through an entire season without a problem from Shawn?"

After all, Wade passed on Livan Hernandez, Kyle Lohse and one or two other pitchers. He went for the guy with the baggage. I'm hoping it wasn't just about money. Minnesota gave Hernandez $5 million. St. Louis gave Lohse $4.25 million.

Maybe Wade was gambling Chacon would do whatever he could to do everything right and maybe land a big money deal after the season. Now, it seems unlikely he'll ever pitch again in the big leagues.

What a strange career Chacon has had. He made the National League All-Star team in 2003 and was huge in helping the New York Yankees get to the playoffs in 2005.

He also has frustrated teammates and managers with his meltdowns, attitude and behavior. He twice tested positive for marijuana in the minor leagues and almost was released by the Rockies before he got close to the big leagues.

Once he arrived in 2001, he seemed on the fast track to stardom. By August 2002, Colorado manager Clint Hurdle banished him to the minor leagues and doubted he'd ever be back. Yet Chacon showed up for spring training the following year and won Hurdle back with his attitude and performance.

Chacon impressed the Yankees for a while, too, and the Pirates last year with his setup work in the bullpen. The Astros left spring training this spring saying great things about him.

Then he fell apart on the mound. And now this.

Richard Justice is a columnist for the Houston Chronicle and a regular contributor to Sporting News.
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Chacon's Stat Line for 2008:

W 2 L 3 ERA 5.04, G 15 GS 15, CG - ShO - SV - SVO -, IP 85.2 H 88, R 52 ER 48, HR 16, BB 41 K 53

"You need to take a look in the bleeping mirror"

I got a laugh out of Ed Wade reading those exact words at his press conference...

He is lucky he is able to do that to his boss, and not face criminal charges

Its like that guy (i forget who) who attacked the pitcher with his bat

Wade should be fired for cussing, yelling, etc in a public discussion.....Chacon committed career suicide by (a) refusing to meet with his boss and (B) choking his boss. Chacon should retire now.

Chacon: Hey my agent will get me another job.

Dials Agent...no answer, repeat, repeat.

Chacon: Well I can get another job.

All other teams: No answer.

Chacon takes out want ad:

Pitcher who has lost his best stuff and his mind wants team who will not tell me what to do, bail money and an alibi for attempted murder!

Chacon is just doing this because he's a former Yankee...

Ha Ha

if I were him id call latrell sprewell and get some advice....

I have it on good authority that Chacon was a law-abiding citizen, and was a Big Brother, when not helping rebuild burnt-down churches

Then Giambi slipped him a little something...ever since, the guy is nuts.

Ha ha....yeah but even Giambi has not choked his GM!

Talk about a guy absolutely losing his freakin' mind. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Wow. You have it all. You're a major league starting pitcher with great stuff, and are making $2 million to play a kid's game. Then you make one stupid decision, and it's all gone. You Mr. Chacon are indeed an idiot.

Any boss that has to cuss and yell at employees doesn't deserve to be a boss in the first place. If my boss was to sit and cuss me we would have a big problem because at some point the old 9mm would be pointing at his forehead before he finished. My momma doesn't cuss me, I'll be damned if some else does.

He still might get a job if someone is desperate for some pitching. Sprewell signed with New York after his choking with Carlisimo. Though Sprewell is better than Chacon.

Only if Sprewell would have choked harder, the Sonics would not have such a shitty coach.

The big difference in the two situations...Sprewell was an All Star caliber player. Chacon is an inconsistent pitcher.

Wade apparently gave Chacon the chance to speak privately, suggesting they go in to a nearby office. Chacon refused. If he was afraid of getting embarrassed, I don't really understand his choice of staying in a public area.