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ESPN: Seattle traded Jose Vidro and Richie Sexson for GM Billy Beane, who will serve as GM. An insider on the team was quoted saying " we feel this move will increase our offensive production heavily, and brings us I guy who gets guys on base. Sexson and Vidro did not get guys on base."
hmm....
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Well, first day without Bavasi, and McLaren moves Ichiro to right field to play Bloomquist in center...even though Ichiro is a gold-glove caliber center fielder and hsi glove is much more valuable up the middle....and has Johjima taking grounders at first base.
Fantastic!
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Man...without Bavasi, no one will ever take Julio Lugo and his $9mil in a trade....ahhh shucks.
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We'll take him, if you take Igawa, Pavano, and Posada in 2/3 years. We'll also throw in Chase Wright, but you have to throw in Timlin and Wakefield.
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WHAK0985
Let's hope Mclaren is only sticking around for the rest of the season as well. In fact, the Mariners should just sweep all their trash out the door now. Bavasi, Mclaren, Sexson, Washburn, Vidro, Willie, Cairo. My god, they have a lot of junk sitting around on that roster. Go M's!
Why get rid of Willie? He's cheap, plays 7 positions, and is a fan favorite. We might be stuck with Vidro for one more year if he gets to a certain amount of PA's. Knowing McLaren, he probably will. I dont see why Vidro is in the middle of the lineup? He should be at the bottom three. How many years does Washburn have till his contract is up?
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Coach Owens
Are you joking? Gillick destroyed our farm system! I say Chris Antonetti for GM and Paul DePodesta for assistant GM.
Its not like the farm can get any worse. Bavasi traded them all to Baltimore. Watch in five years the Orioles in first place with all ex-Mariners.
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Alloutwar
Man...without Bavasi, no one will ever take Julio Lugo and his $9mil in a trade....ahhh shucks.
There is still that Saeban guy in San Fransisco. You never know what would happen.
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asianinvasion
There is still that Saeban guy in San Fransisco. You never know what would happen.
Lugo's a bit too young.
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HoustonGM
Lugo's a bit too young.
Wait a year or two.
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asianinvasion
Why get rid of Willie? He's cheap, plays 7 positions, and is a fan favorite. We might be stuck with Vidro for one more year if he gets to a certain amount of PA's. Knowing McLaren, he probably will. I dont see why Vidro is in the middle of the lineup? He should be at the bottom three. How many years does Washburn have till his contract is up?
Washburn has one more year left for 2009 but he is truly terrible right now and has been for the duration of his contract. Just buy him out and replace him with someone much cheaper.
And the reason Willie has to go is to eliminate the Mariners' manger's fetish with him. He has received far too many ABs in the past, although I will say that this year the Mariners have done a good job of limiting his plate appearances, probably because of his terrible production (.189/.306/.189). And the whole fan favorite bit is precisely why Bavasi and the current management failed the past several years. I think fans want a winning ballclub more than seeing Willie the local hero get his ABs.
And yes, let's all pray that Vidro doesn't get enough ABs for his option to vest. Please, please, please.
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WHAK0985
Washburn has one more year left for 2009 but he is truly terrible right now and has been for the duration of his contract. Just buy him out and replace him with someone much cheaper.
And the reason Willie has to go is to eliminate the Mariners' manger's fetish with him. He has received far too many ABs in the past, although I will say that this year the Mariners have done a good job of limiting his plate appearances, probably because of his terrible production (.189/.306/.189). And the whole fan favorite bit is precisely why Bavasi and the current management failed the past several years. I think fans want a winning ballclub more than seeing Willie the local hero get his ABs.
And yes, let's all pray that Vidro doesn't get enough ABs for his option to vest. Please, please, please.
If Willie just ran and played some defense, I would be happy. I would agree that he is getting too many at bats. Half the team sucks so its not like he is hurting the team right now though.
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WHAK0985
Washburn has one more year left for 2009 but he is truly terrible right now and has been for the duration of his contract. Just buy him out and replace him with someone much cheaper.
He's been overpaid, but he hasn't been terrible for the duration of his contract. He's been about a league-average pitcher. This year, he's terrible.
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HoustonGM
Lugo's a bit too young.
probably. Win now, don't ya know?
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Lugo may not be too young. He probably lied about his age and is really 48, which is why he cant field
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In related news, it appears that they've held discussions and are strongly considering releasing Richie Sexson!
I'm assuming Jose Vidro and Miguel Cairo come next? We'll see if the new interim GM is really serious about recognizing sunk costs.