So, I'm supposed to feel foolish for thinking the other team would win? Why, exactly, is that? Tell ya what...I'll feel foolish for that right around the time you feel foolish for acting like a frontrunning, egotistical ***.
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So, I'm supposed to feel foolish for thinking the other team would win? Why, exactly, is that? Tell ya what...I'll feel foolish for that right around the time you feel foolish for acting like a frontrunning, egotistical ***.
Hah, let them have it, arctic blast
The Celtics still won...
Yeah, and the difference is that most people, those with any sense, dont say things like "The Lakers WILL win"..... or "The Celtics WILL win". Thats the point. Not to mention the ridiculous theories of the league manipulating the series so it will go 7 games. Look at the stats on 7 game NBA finals over the past 20 years or so. The facts are that the finals going 7 games is a very rare occurrence these days. but don't let the truth get in the way of a good nonsensical theory. THATS the point. Making statements like that just make one look foolish.
If history has proven anything, its that anything can happen in a sporting event. As for being "front-running"......my guess is that I have been a fan of the Celtics and Red Sox for longer than you have been alive, Arctic. I endured the lean years (no championships from 1986-2004) without the acrimony you now display. So please forgive us poor Boston fans if we celebrate our titles.
And yes, destroying the Lakers gives it special meaning..... much like humiliating the hated Yankees with the comeback from 0-3 in 2004 is particularly pleasing.
Too bad you non-Boston fans dont display the grace you claim that others lack.
Boston fans are still horrible...Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Believe what you choose, Belial......But I have never seen more fervent, knowledgeable, and yes, classy fans. Boston is a fantastic city as well.
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Originally Posted by Swampdog
Boston fans were less assholish when the Red Sox weren't able to get it done for about a friggen century. Then the Patriots started cheating, the Red Sox got lucky and now Boston fans are smug - couple this with the huge Bostonian ego and it's a digusting combination that people around the country hate.
And yes, most people make predictions, and what is friggen wrong with that? The fact remains that in a short series, the poorer team can often win, and timing is everything. If LA and Boston played a month ago, LA probably wins in 5 games. Boston was not the better team but they won. People are supposed to feel foolish because some freak thing happened? Right. Time to pass that pipe, buddy.
You are quite wrong Belial. Again. The Celtics, by any measure, were the better team. I dont see how anyone could rationally conclude anything else. Even the lakers say this. As do many of their fans. Being objective, its the only conclusion that can be reached.
Again....there is nothing wrong with thinking.....THINKING.....a team will win. Making a prediction to that effect is fine. On the other hand, some people act like they somehow KNOW which team will win. And yes, they look foolish, whether they feel foolish or not.
Pipe? Sorry, I dont drink, smoke, or take drugs. You keep the pipe, and take solace in that. Perhaps that will help heal your hurt feelings.
I seriously doubt anyone thought they KNEW 100%. Maybe that's just the Boston fan perception problem showing up again.
Of course, the Lakers will 'say the right things.' They are a great franchise with a great front office and a gracious coach. The only thing the 6 game series showed objectively was Boston won 4 out of 6 in a short series. That's not enough games to change what I saw over a season and the preceding playoffs.
Who's feelings are hurt? I was just trying to let Boston fans understand the perception that they have around the nation and they can try to change if they want.
Thanks Belial, I cant speak for anyone else, but I will give that (the fanhood thing) the consideration it deserves. I will say that the Lakers were slightly more gracious than I expected. I don't think much of Bryant as a teammate or person (from what I know), and I did enjoy the fact that he basically was neutered at the end of each game, except for one, maybe. His "Kobe-the-assassin" thing took quite a beating in the view of many.
Heh so what? KG had a reputation as a pathetic loser, now suddenly (with paul pierce carrying him) he's an emotional champion, a great winner. Kobe will dominant in some more playoff series and get back his street cred - don't worry about that.
People have a short memory when it comes to an active player.
People have short memories when it comes to just about anything in sports, it seems. I dont think that Garnett was considered a "pathetic loser".... thats a little strong. Was Pierce a pathetic loser......before he actually had talent around him? Don't think so.
As for Kobe-the-assistant..... thats what his legacy will be, I hope. He did help win titles when he was Shaq's assistant, and he drove Shaq away because his gigantic ego couldnt stand being the #2 guy, with Shaq getting all the credit. He deserves losing, and I hope it continues.
Give credit where credit is due. Just because you hate a team, a city, or whatever, doesn't mean that their winning is because they got lucky. In order to win 2 World Series in 4 years in this day and age, you have to be doing something right.Quote:
Originally Posted by belial
The complaints about Boston fans are baseless anyway. There are great fans in every city, and each team has its share of obnoxious, unruly fans (especially LA and NY.... just cant help it). Exactly what do Boston fans do differently than other fans? Nothing except celebrate, because Boston is enjoying an unprecedented era of winning. Are fans smug? I dont see how. Their teams win, so that makes them happy. Would Chicago fans be any different? Or New York Fans? Houston? I doubt it. If so... how, exactly?
What irritates people...like the posters in these forums... is not how Boston fans act... its that Boston fans get to celebrate so many winners over the past few years, and there is envy and bitterness. Its a feeling that they dont deserve so many champions... and that NO fans deserve so many, unless, of course, its THEIR team thats doing all the winning.
This is nothing new. I remember the feeling that Oakland did nothing to deserve 4 WS winners in the 70's and 80's (they didnt even support their teams, attendance wise). Why did Chicago deserve 6 NBA championships in the 90's? They didnt, really. You didnt think that those fans were "smug" and "obnoxious" when it came to the Bulls? They were. I remember it quite well. Bulls fans at that team led the league in "smugness", and, due to Jordan, they did win. Over and over again.
Boston's run wont last forever. No team wins all the time. The poor Yankees havent won this century (yes, I LOVE saying that), and the Lakers havent won in 6 years now. Jeezus, boohoo. I can tell you that, from an outsider looking in, no one is more annoying than Yankees fans, although the Lakers fans are close.
If I have a choice between having my teams lose, so "other" people wont hate Boston fans, or have those teams win championships, and be perceived as somehow smug and undeserving......I'm going to have to take the championships every time, and not care who doesnt like it. I rather doubt that fans of any other team feels differently
It's not that Boston teams have been winning - I don't hate San Antonio fans. It's just that Boston fans are generally jerks.