Jeff Kent - HOFer?

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Originally Posted by yankee hater

I'm sorry the formula is not available to the public at this time. It is a stat that values longetivity, comparasions to contemporaries, and takes into consideration the actual replacement value of the talent in the teams farm system, among other things.

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You think you're being clever, but you're not.

i like all 3 of the guys mentioned for the hall but tha could be because I have seen all of them play. I never say an eddie collins or rogers hornsby or even joe morgan play....

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Originally Posted by yankee hater

You think you know something, but you don't.

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I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.

You just made up numbers off the top of your head. WARP isn't. The exact formula isn't public, but it doesn't take more than a couple seconds of research to know what goes into it. It's not just a randomly generated number. Nor was I using it as a definitive answer. I was just using it to give another perspective on the question. There's no need to make snarky remarks every time anybody uses a stat which you don't like.

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Originally Posted by yankee hater

No I didn't. Please stop implying I was being untruthful. I mean it.

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Did you not make those numbers up off the top of your head? Did you not make a snarky remark after I used a stat that you don't like?

Please. If i didn't mention WARP, you would not have posted your made-up numbers.

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Originally Posted by yankee hater

No, it's a formula I have created to use for the subscription website I plan to open.

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Sure. :rolleyes:

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Again, stop.

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Stop what? Stop jumping in and making snarky comments every time somebody uses a stat you don't like.

We know what WARP is based off. We don't know the exact formula. I don't care to know your exact formula, but I'd love to know what it uses, and frankly, what you said above, it still gives no indication to how Sandberg would rank higher than Alomar, considering Alomar had more longevity, and they were contemporaries, and Alomar was better. Never mind the fact that comparing players to the other players on their team is a horrible way to evaluate who was a better player.

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Originally Posted by yankee hater

Players on the farm team.

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Same thing. That's a horrible way to evaluate who is a better player.

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Originally Posted by yankee hater

And seriously, stop implying that I'm attempting to deceive you or anyone else.

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I don't think you're attempting to deceive anybody, nor am I implying that you are. I think you're just trying to start arguments by jumping in whenever anybody uses a stat you dislike and making things up just to be clever, not to deceive anybody.

But, rather than making claims about something I'm not doing, why don't you actually, you know, prove that those numbers aren't just random numbers off the top of your head? How was Ryne Sandberg better than Roberto Alomar?

So your "scale" uses measures like home run titles?

And it weighs power more than getting on-base?

You know what, I'm dropping this conversation. I have a hard time believing this ridiculous formula even exists, and any formula based on comparing players to those in his own organization deos not let you compare players in any accurate manner.