Use of splits by media

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Originally Posted by SirKodiak

Many times on a TV baseball broadcast (and probably in news articles), I've heard/seen statements like:

• (Player X) is the key to (Team A) because when he hits (much better than normal) when they win, but (much lower than normal) when they lose; and
• (Pitcher Y) needs to be more consistent because he has (great pitching stats) in his wins and (terrible pitching stats) when he loses.

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I'm just waiting for the media guy who says:

"This team wins more when they win, and loses more when they lose."

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Originally Posted by CatKnight

I'm just waiting for the media guy who says:

"This team wins more when they win, and loses more when they lose."

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Sounds like a Joe Morgan Quote . . . .

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

I wonder if anyobody has a better era/ Batting average in losses? It is plausible

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Proabably several batters, i doubt there would be very many pitchers.

in Wins: .304/.375/.494 (.869 OPS) w/ .335 BABIP,
in Losses: .231/.294 /.349 (.643 OPS) w/ .269 BABIP

after 1-0 count: .282/.394/.459 (.853 OPS) w/ .305 BABIP
after 0-1 count: .238/.281/.361 (.643 OPS) w/ .299 BABIP

The BABIP in Wins and Losses interests me. I wonder how much the difference is a bad day for the pitchers/good day for the hitters (more line drives and harder hit balls) and how much is luck (seeing eye grounders, bloop singles, etc.).

It looks to me that it is much more the pitcher having a bad day than luck:

• In 6.7% more PA
  
  • 26.6% more Singles are hit
  • while 49.0% more 2B & 3B are hit
  • and 77.2% more HR are hit
  • with 26.3% more NIBB + HBP being allowed,
  • and there are 12.7% less strike outs
  • and 41.8% more RBOE.

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Originally Posted by gRYFYN1

Proabably several batters, i doubt there would be very many pitchers.

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I've been looking, and haven't found anyone even close yet. Anyone have any suggestions of players to look at?

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I wonder how much the difference is a bad day for the pitchers/good day for the hitters (more line drives and harder hit balls) and how much is luck (seeing eye grounders, bloop singles, etc.).

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You can tell by using a 95% confidence interval and determining the margin of error. What are the actual counts?

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Originally Posted by gRYFYN1

Proabably several batters, i doubt there would be very many pitchers.

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I think it could happen with a pitcher. If in losses, he pitches very well but gets little run support, and in wins pitches mediocrely or even poorly but gets more run support. So I think this is possible, but I just have never seen it. If it have happened, it is likely in a small sample size, like a player with 5-6 starts, as it is not as likely that trend would carry on for too long. But it is possible. I think releivers have a better chace of this occuring do to their appearance throughout wins and losses well having no desicion. So say Releiver B through 44 innings in losses, and 45 in wins, and allowed 12 runs in losses well allowing 18 in wins. This is quite plausible.

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