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Using tax money to go after people that break the law isn't necessarily a waste. Using tax payer money to try to round up drug users because they're big names and it looks good on your resume while making yourself out to be a crusader for all that is just and right in that you're getting rid of drugs, while basically ignoring the real source of the problem - the drugs and the people that distribute them - is a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee hater
if no one used drugs no one would distribute them either, supply and demand....Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Yes, but going after the users does nothing to get rid of the drugs. When you want to come off as some sort of anti-drug crusader, it does no good for the cause of stopping drugs if you do not go after the drugs themselves.
if only it were that simple, as long as there is a demand or rather demand enough for a product someone will be willing to supply it. You have to go after both....Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
My opinion.....Harsh...very harsh sentences for the suppliers.....10-20 years without parole.
Reduced Sentences for the buyers/users if they turn on their sources 1-2 years no parole. If they don't turn 5 years no parole!
exactly, you have to make it not worth while for the users or there will always be a supply....Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
But I wouldn't pour all my resources into catching the users, while ignoring the suppliers. I wouldn't give the suppliers deals to give me the users.
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Originally Posted by RickD
Almost 30 years of experience with this sort of thing shows just how ineffective it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wassit3
maybe it is because in the USA we are very very un-evenhanded with penalties for users and dealers. It very very much depends on how much money you have to defend yourself, the mood of the judge/jury, if sentences were stricter and mandatory then you might see some reductions as people realize that losing 30 years of your life for some pot is not worth it...Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
More likely the prisons will just become even more overcrowded with non-violent offenders... who then learn all sorts of other **** that they could get away with and will try when they get out.
I never understood the fascination people have with locking people up. We have more prisoners here in the US then anyone else in the world.
And if I remember correctly, most of them were convicted of non-violent crimes (particularly, drugs).Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
They should seriously go after the Big Fishes, and not the users or the distributors. If the makers of the drugs make it out of the country, you have to go after the fish who bring it in.
In any circumstance, it is flat out ridiculous to cut deals with drug DEALERS like Radomski and McNamee in order to get information on baseball players.
turue, why lock them up when we can just give em the old death penalty for drug use, aftrerall if they use enough they are going to kill themselves and possibly many others too along the way so why not just make drug use a death penalty without appeal offense, prison over crowding problem solved ( tongue planted firmly in cheek)Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
I think they both, if we are going to have it be illegal, go to jail however I still think that unless you make it very not worthwhile for users and dealers you will always have some drug use. You might still regardless of what you do, there are too many millions to be made for some to not be tempted.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM