I think he's been proven to be a jerk. And an idiot.
But not a cheat.
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I think he's been proven to be a jerk. And an idiot.
But not a cheat.
this is the reason why i don't watch the news or any major network anymore[was because of the strike but more because of the politics] it is because everyone everywhere is talking about the same ****** thing! I hate watching CBS when they preempt NCIS with election coverage. If you want to know how the political system works watch Team America World police, and you'll have your answer.
Hank Aaron had a career high 47 home runs when he was 37. Also a career high OPS+ of 194. Cheater.Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee hater
Randy Johnson was no better than an average pitcher, who walked 100+ guys a year until he was 29. His best seasons ame in his late 30s'. I guess he found a way to cheat that improves his control.
Nolan Ryan had the second-highest ERA+ of his career at age 40. His highest came in 1981 - a year shortened by strike. Cheater.
Cy Young's best years came at age 34 and age 41. Cheater.
I don't know what sabermetricians you're talking about specifically, but not all agree. See this article.
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Naturally, I have my own opinion about whether Clemens used so-called performance enhancers, and I don’t think he did himself any favors in his Congressional testimony yesterday. But where his statistical record is concerned, there is no smoking gun.
Oh and for what it's worth, Roger Clemensat age 28 had a better year than he did at age 38. And he also doesn't really have a "dual peak." Except for a few years - 1993, 1995, arguably 1996, 1999, 2002, and 2003 - he was consistently outstanding with a few off-the-charts years thrown in (1990, 1997, 2005). For an all-time great pitcher, that's nothing out of the ordinary.
If Nolan would put his Cheeting art to Texas that ok here
Well I think the whole improving with age proves you cheat theory is just bunk. Some guys learn how to condition themselves, play smarter, etc. Even in football Jerry Rice put up great numbers by playing smarter and conditioning as he aged.
I remember seeing pics of Nolan working out as he aged and continuing to work on conditioning.
I also re-watched part of the Hearing on this mess and loved the self-serving criticism the congressman had of themselves...."We should not be wasting time with this, does not serve the nation well, wastes taxpayer money, but since I'm here let me talk to Roger Clemens."
There is one reason I think Clemens used, and it's the same reason I think Bonds and sosa and Giambi used. Their cap sizes increased repeatedly during the periods in question, which means their HEAD sizes increased. Grown men do not typically tend to have their skulls start expansion when that man is in his 30's and 40's...doesn't happen. There is no other explanation for this phenomenon.
Is there anywhere that documents the cap sizes of players??
I dunno, I'm inclined to go with PECOTA's view on things (the last quoted article.) It's not unheard of for players to stabilize and continue performing well into their late 30s.
IMPROVE, as Barry Bonds did? That calls for explanation. Not just for one season, which can be an anomalous random spike - 'the luck of the baseball gods' or some such - but over a few years?
I don't care what new workout regime you have...your body is going to age and start breaking down. Ads like "I feel better at 42 than I did at 22" are only true if you weren't really doing anything to help yourself at 22...in which case you couldn't have been MLB caliber.
Longevity and a SLOW decline? Mmm...well, it's happened before, so I have to concede the possibility that it's happening here.
Cap sizes? LOL!
Where's this information from?Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee hater
And BP's article isn't really "findings." I don't know how you really can "challenge it." All it did was go back to before he was alleged to have started steroids, and projected him forward using PECOTA, and compared that to how he actually did...
I don't doubt that he used steroids either, because I think most players did at least try it at some point that played in the late 90's and early 00's. But, the evidence against Clemens is not overwhelming. The only evidence is the word of a drug-dealing, alleged rapist, proven liar.Quote:
As of right now I find it hard to believe Roger wasn't on the juice, because of overwhelming evidence.
So is Fraudger, unless you believe his best friend and closest teammate, Andy Pettite and his wife are both lying about Fraudger too. Seems kinda of funny that all these people are lying on Fraudger, they all must really hate Fraudger, must be a big *sshole to be around.Quote:
proven liar.
And if Mcnamee is such a piece of *hit why the **** did Fraudger keep him as trainer for so long?
Brian McNamee stood in front of Congress and admitted to lie after lie after lie. He is a liar. That's not to say that he's lying about Clemens, but it is to say that the guy does not have much credibility.
Also, Andy Pettitte doesn't have to be lying. He said Clemens told him that he did HGH, and then when he asked years later, Clemens said he must've misunderstood him. Pettitte says multiple times that it was a possibility that he misunderstood. He wasn't 100% confidant about the conversations. And Pettitte's wife just said what Pettitte told her, so, if Pettite misunderstood, than, so did his wife...
No, I don't have a man crush on Dan Burton. I despise most politicians. And I'm not conservative. But he was one of the few that actually took to exposing the facts about McNamee instead of focusing solely on Clemens.Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee hater
As I acknowledged.Quote:
Past lies do not guarantee he is lying now
He has lied about steroids. In the past few months. The man IS a liar, and arguing otherwise is just arguing semantics.Quote:
so the correct sentence for you to have typed is he was a liar.
There isn't any evidence. Currently, the only evidence is what he says, and Pettitte's shaky testimony, which PETTITTE HIMSELF admitted is shaky.Quote:
The trainer doesn't need much creditability when all (ok most) of the evidence corraberates (Yeah I misremebered how to spell that word) what he is saying.
Oh, and Pettitte has lied too. You know, the whole, "I did HGH for two days and only two days" and then a couple months later admitting to have done it more?
Everybody involved in this stupid situation has lied. I really don't know why baseball, and especially Congress, is wasting time on it anymore. We get it. Tons of players used steroids and HGH. Instead of going on witch hunts to try and catch people that shot syringes up their butts 10 years ago, why don't we put attention on furthering the testing policies for the present and future?