Biased Officials in Super Bowl

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Originally Posted by beerchaser

Fixed that for ya, don't think you've fully "dealt" with that yet.

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Well, unless you are me (and last time I checked, you aren't), how would you know what I have and haven't "fully dealt with" yet? Trust me, my life is hectic enough where the last thing I need to be worrying about 1 week later is the fact that my hometown football team lost the biggest game of the season. Maybe a day after I'm still thinking about it but 1 week? Not likely.

All I was trying to state was I don't see where the problem is. Mostly I'm just confused by how the OP stating (his opinion) that he was annoyed with the officiating and backing that up with examples is bad "sportsmanship."

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

I watched the game with my family and I was extremely annoyed with the officiating. Here's the things I noticed:

I. On the diving catch by Toomer on the sideline, I think it was during the second quarter, I saw THREE uncalled penalties on the Giants. The most obvious of things too.

1. Offensive PI on Toomer
2. 5yd facemask on Toomer
3. ILLEGAL FORMATION! The Giants had only 3 men within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage, not counting Eli.

II. The key play on the Giants' winning drive, the Tyree reception:

1. In my opinion, Eli Manning was down.
2. The ball hit the ground and Tyree did not have posession of the ball.
3. Holding on two Giant lineman: the center and the right tackle.

III. Plaxico Burress was not on the active roster! Under NFL rules, this results in automatic forfeiture of the game.

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The ball never hit the ground what are you talking about, and Eli wasn't even close to being down. You must be a Pats fan.

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Originally Posted by jtuma2008

Well, unless you are me (and last time I checked, you aren't), how would you know what I have and haven't "fully dealt with" yet? Trust me, my life is hectic enough where the last thing I need to be worrying about 1 week later is the fact that my hometown football team lost the biggest game of the season. Maybe a day after I'm still thinking about it but 1 week? Not likely.

All I was trying to state was I don't see where the problem is. Mostly I'm just confused by how the OP stating (his opinion) that he was annoyed with the officiating and backing that up with examples is bad "sportsmanship."

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There are "examples" of "bad officiating" in every NFL game. It has been said that holding could be called on every single play that occurs in every single NFL game that is played. **** happens. Deal with it. Don't whine about it. And don't give me a bunch of **** that says, "I'm right to whine about this." I really don't care.

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Originally Posted by beerchaser

There are "examples" of "bad officiating" in every NFL game. It has been said that holding could be called on every single play that occurs in every single NFL game that is played. **** happens. Deal with it. Don't whine about it. And don't give me a bunch of **** that says, "I'm right to whine about this." I really don't care.

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You didn't even answer my question first of all and second of all where am I whining about anything? All I've stated that is in any way related to the outcome itself is that had I seen what the OP saw (more notably the plays that affected the outcome and were indeed missed calls), I would be pissed too. That's it, end of story. You were the one who started dragging this off-topic and into the realm of "you clearly haven't dealt with it". If you don't care about it, don't bring it up. I am merely responding to you because you seem to have the wrong impression about where I stand with the game. The rest of my conversation has been about the sportsmanship issue which you blatantly ignored.

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Originally Posted by captkirk685

The ball never hit the ground what are you talking about, and Eli wasn't even close to being down. You must be a Pats fan.

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Ya think?

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Originally Posted by jtuma2008

If you don't care about it, don't bring it up.

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Okay, works for me dude. I'll not say any more about it. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by jtuma2008

All I was trying to state was I don't see where the problem is. Mostly I'm just confused by how the OP stating (his opinion) that he was annoyed with the officiating and backing that up with examples is bad "sportsmanship."

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simple,
"fabricating" evidence to support a falsehood
is not an opinion.

*how bout the 12th man on the field ? hmm ?
*or the PI in the endzone that lead to 1st TD ?

*what was Mr Bill thinking about going for it on 4th down ?
*oh and what of all those potential turnovers that they let slip thru their fingers ?
*and all the sacks/knockdowns hurries ?
*did the NE starting OL hire impersonators ?:p

NE got outplayed. period.

maybe if they showed up, and hadnt assumed the win.
but its no matter, THE GIANTS ARE THE CHAMPS !

enjoy the offseason :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_World_Series#Game_6

Now that is a blown call...

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Originally Posted by MeetDaMets

simple,
"fabricating" evidence to support a falsehood
is not an opinion.

*how bout the 12th man on the field ? hmm ?
*or the PI in the endzone that lead to 1st TD ?

*what was Mr Bill thinking about going for it on 4th down ?
*oh and what of all those potential turnovers that they let slip thru their fingers ?
*and all the sacks/knockdowns hurries ?
*did the NE starting OL hire impersonators ?:p

NE got outplayed. period.

maybe if they showed up, and hadnt assumed the win.
but its no matter, THE GIANTS ARE THE CHAMPS !

enjoy the offseason :p

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Can you prove that he's fabricating evidence? I didn't say the OP was right. All I said was that he had an opinion based on something he saw during the game so I didn't see how that was bad sportsmanship.

NE got outplayed, yes, but for you to assume that they just showed up and assumed they were going to win, I don't think that's for you to say since you're not one of the people in that locker room. It's not like they blew the Giants out Week 17 and were super-confident they'd do it again. That game was very close and they're professionals so if I had to guess, they'd prepared just as hard, if not harder, for the SB.

I'm also not quite sure what you're trying to prove with the 12th man on the field and the PI call but I guess that's something entirely different.

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Originally Posted by jtuma2008

I'm also not quite sure what you're trying to prove with the 12th man on the field and the PI call but I guess that's something entirely different.

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that key penalties were called on the giants.
reinforcing a lack of bias ?

too obvious ?

in any event its my opinion that its poor sportsmanship.
i believe i have that right as much as the op :)

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Originally Posted by MeetDaMets

*what was Mr Bill thinking about going for it on 4th down ?

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Clearly, biased NFL officials using some kind of mind control ray (I've heard the machine was hidden under the hood of the instant-replay monitor on the sidelines) planted that idea in his head.

jtuma2008 : Actually, a lot of Giants players and a lot of field officials have mentioned overhearing the Patriots saying some pretty cocky garbage, such as inviting the Giants to the Pats postgame victory party DURING the game, even when they were trailing. That certainly smacks of a team that had decided that it was entitled to win.

Aside from the WC matchups I might have missed 5 minutes of any of the games, and the Superbowl officials were the class of the bunch. Don't bring that junk in here.

BTW, Plaxico was listed as questionable before the game. This doesn't mean he was inactive or unavailable, LMFAO.

That post had to have been in jest.

You have to forgive us N.E. Pats fans for getting a little ahead of ourselves. The Plunkett, Grogan, Eason years had left us battered and, well, we can't let go now that we've had a taste of the good life.

I'd have to say for myself after the whole spygate fiasco and then Wilfork's cheap shot on Bills QB Losman in week 3 I wondered what was going on with this team. The Giants winning the Bowl is fine, my only hitch is with Eli Manning and his college draft BS about telling the Chargers (1st pick) that he wouldn't play for them if they drafted them, but...eh.

I think I'm ready for those Patriots lean years again, they were kinda fun actually.

I hate Eli(and his brother) and I don't care to see Boston win another championship, but this was one of the best officiated SB I've seen in years. And since none of the Pats have been on sportscenter crying about it, they know what the both is, they simply got beat.

And Ive heard players say themselves that there are penalties on every play from holding to illegal contact to def lineman lined up in neutral zone, that don't get called.