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Ah but its the intangibles which can't be measured by statistics!
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Can "intangibles" make up for 100 points of slugging?
Honestly, I'd rank the players Berra, Rizzuto, Dimaggio, for that season. Rizzuto's true value above that of Dimaggio wasn't intangibles, but defense.
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Well he was great enough for the Yanks to retire his number!
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Ah but its the intangibles which can't be measured by statistics!
Well that is an euphemism is there ever was 1.
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Well that is an euphemism is there ever was 1.
now THATS funny ! :D
Re: Can you think of a worse argument?
Rizzuto was a legitamately great player in 1950, and was at least very good in 1949. The rest of his career, he was a good regular. I don't think a year or two of greatness is enough to put a man in the HoF, and if it was, Maris and a lot of other guys would still have been better choices.
The Yankees won 7 World Series during Rizzuto's time with them, yes.
But mostly they won them with power hitting, which Rizzuto had nothing to do with. Givern the strentgh of the rest of their lineup and their pitching, they would have won those 7 championships with any adequate starting SS.
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Rizzuto was a legitamately great player in 1950, and was at least very good in 1949. The rest of his career, he was a good regular. I don't think a year or two of greatness is enough to put a man in the HoF, and if it was, Maris and a lot of other guys would still have been better choices.
The Yankees won 7 World Series during Rizzuto's time with them, yes.
But mostly they won them with power hitting, which Rizzuto had nothing to do with. Givern the strentgh of the rest of their lineup and their pitching, they would have won those 7 championships with any adequate starting SS.
exactly
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Rizzuto was a legitamately great player in 1950, and was at least very good in 1949. The rest of his career, he was a good regular. I don't think a year or two of greatness is enough to put a man in the HoF, and if it was, Maris and a lot of other guys would still have been better choices.
The Yankees won 7 World Series during Rizzuto's time with them, yes.
But mostly they won them with power hitting, which Rizzuto had nothing to do with. Givern the strentgh of the rest of their lineup and their pitching, they would have won those 7 championships with any adequate starting SS.
:p
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Look I am an irrational Yanks Fan. Rizzuto was one of the greatest Yankees ever.
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That's the whole point. The are much worse arguments, some of which have no bearing on anything relevant to anything at all. This argument had weak reasoning, but is no where close to what the worst possible or even worst I heard is.
Again, think rationally here. Of all the actual arguments, based on the facts of what Raines did on the field, what's a worse argument than a guy that attmepted 900+ steals didn't steal enough? Okay, maybe you can think of some, but seriously, you're arguing semantics here.
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Okay, maybe you can think of some, but seriously, you're arguing semantics here.
that's what makes it fun...for awhile
