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Houston GM has a point about the quality of the argument "against" Raines. A person who overlooks some outstanding batting averages, OBP, slugging, and, most importantly for a leadoff hitter, runs scored, in order to use steal percentage as a disqualification of his Hall of Fame worthiness is not very analytical. Who else other than Henderson possessed that combination of tools from a leadoff standpoint? Very few.
Truthfully Raines was a great player. The thing is you could statistically rule out anyone from the HOF if you look at 1 aspect of their careers. However in his complete overall performance Raines is definitely HOF worthy.
Remember, do not feed the trolls!
" judge and prepare to be judged."
:rolleyes:
Well as some of you may know in my game Furcal stole every chance he had and normally was only at like 78% and ever since my game crashed I chose to take a different approach and now he is 56-63 with a % of 89% and I must say it is sooo true that being caught stealing is so much worse than being successful... because he used to get to 2nd so much and I would make him try to steal 3rd and although many times he was safe other times he was out... causing the team a run that could have developed with even a regular base hit.... so sometimes it is good when you dont steal every chance youget
So, once again, you're arguing with me for the sake of arguing with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee hater
Oh, I could make far worse arguments against Raines if I were so inclined. For example:
"Raines shouldn't be elected to the Hall because he was born in Vermont".
Which would be both totally illogical and factually incorrect (he was born in Florida).
:D
i think it's because he has small hands:)Quote:
Originally Posted by dps
Heh, well, yes, I know, there are obviously worse arguments if you just want to make things up or hold completely irrelevent things like birthplace against him, lol. But, of all the statistical arguments you could make....a man that ran 900+ times didn't run enough?
One of the comments on this guys article is pretty rational:
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Let me get this straight: Tim Raines is getting penalized for being the best ever at picking his spots for stolen bases? No player in MLB history ever used the stolen base more effectively, as no player added more runs to his teams' totals by stealing bases. And yes, this includes Rickey, too.
forrest gump ran more sir!??!:pQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
stop clouding the issue with facts and and logic! THose things have no place in HOF voting!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I forgot. :(
yankeehater/slowrx7/watery, do you have a love affair with HGM? seriously you seem to want to argue a different point against him on every thing he post? It gets old after a while