:p I'm a Melky fan ok. I don't want the Yanks to discard him. My ist loyalty is to the Yanks but I do like Melky!
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:p I'm a Melky fan ok. I don't want the Yanks to discard him. My ist loyalty is to the Yanks but I do like Melky!
Heh. Yeah, the Twins might go for that... if this were BM and not the real world. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RickD
Well they wanted 3-4 prospects....give them 3 prospects or 4 who cares just not Melky!
What's so great about Melky? Austin Jackson looks better, and should be ready in 2009. Melky's an aboveaverage defensive player with a below average bat, and the potential to be a slightly above average bat...why would you not want to give that up for the best pitcher in the world, especially considering how bad the Yankees pitching has been in recent years?
I think he's attached to the homegrown players...it's been about 10 years since they had a callup who did decently that they didnt trade away...although...no, Robinson Cano is a callup who performed. but before that was Jeter and Rivera, and everyone else has been bought.
I get attached to players that come up, like Nixon in Boston...just trying to understand.
Yeah, *shrug* I guess I just can't relate to that because I don't have any connections to any teams or individual players.
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Originally Posted by Alloutwar
Wasn't Alfonso Soriano a home grown player? I don't think it has been 10 years since they called up somebody besides Cano.
Yes, but he's not with the yankees anymore. He was referring to guys that are still on the yankees that were brought up through their system.Quote:
Wasn't Alfonso Soriano a home grown player?
Well see that is it in a nutshell. You have no connections to any teams or individuals. I have been a Yankee fan since 1977. 30 years! Now in all that time they've had some great and not-so-great teams. 1 thing they've done too often in the Steinbrenner years is trade away talent and get high priced players. This doesn't always work.....hello Pavano! I like the guys who develop in the system and have only played for 1 team. Right now my favorite Yanks are Jeter, Rivera, Wang, Cano and Cabrera. I like Pettite as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I tend to not follow a player when they leave the Yanks as I love the Yanks 1st and the individual players next.
Woohoo! So I was right. See, as an outsider, I don't see any particular value to Melky; he's beena good 4th outfielder for them, but I don't see him as an Ellsbury...maybe more like a Coco Crisp. So if it came time to deal him potentially, I have no problem with it.
But if it were Lester, I would have taken issue, because I am emotionally invested in him and hope to see him get as good as Santana. So you're coming from a fan perspective, and I get that. HGM, although he always has a balanced and objective viewpoint, sees things more as numbers only, without any fan bias. So that's where the schizm lies.
As for my missing Soriano as a homegrown Yankee, fans didn't really see him come up and down the same way; he wasn't drafted from HS or college, he was signed out of Japan as a free agent. So...although NYY were his first ML team, he had some professional playing time under his belt before he ever got there...close, I guess, but not quite the same I guess.
It doesn't work when done stupidly, like with the Pavano and Wright signings. While foreseeing the immense amount of injuries that Pavano has had was impossible, it was quite obvious that he would not be worth the money. He had one good season - in the weaker league, in a pitcher's park - and the Yankees stupidly gave him an expensive contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
When you get high-priced players, and do it smart, it works - Santana has a track record as the best pitcher in the American League. There's a fundamental difference between Santana and other guys that are given expensive contracts, undeservedly so. I understand your frustration with that, because the Yankees have doled out untold millions for worthless performances, but there are times where doling out the big bucks and sacrificing young talent is worth it - and Santana is one of those times.
Well I think alloutwar nailed it. I am a fan....I love my team...I like certain players and don't want to see that particular player go....I don't look at it logically! (That is not a criticism by the way) I am more an emotional fan. Anywho I don't have a problem with giving up prospects but not guys who have helped like Cabrera.