but it is decent and if you can use him to upgrade your pitching via trade, why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
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but it is decent and if you can use him to upgrade your pitching via trade, why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
OK first I was speaking emotionally not using numbers.....however Damon himself acknowledged Cabrera was the future in the outfield. I would rather have Cabrera at this point!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
That's my point. The Yankees should use Cabrera to upgrade their pitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wassit3
Cabrera than who? Damon? Fair enough, but look at it realistically. Damon's under contract and not really tradable. Cabrera's a hot commodity and can bring in the best pitcher alive...Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
But...and again emotional thinking.....The guys in the minors are not proven at the MLB level. You have 3 aging guys and one young guy in the outfield don't give up the young one. For that matter get rid of Shelly Duncan!
Shelley Duncan won't net Johan Santana. You have to weigh the two options. Three proven aging outfielders plus one young currently so-so outfielder...or three proven aging outfielders plus the best pitcher in the world.
Exactly. Making that trade improves the team immediately, and may even be necessary to compete with Boston over the next year or two. Regardless of what Hank Steinbrenner said several weeks ago the Yankees aren't and may never be in a rebuilding a mode, because they don't have to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I like Cabrera, and he may end up having a great career. But, he's far from irreplaceable right now. Part of the value of a good farm system that creates players like him is the value they can bring in the trade market.
Could they use him a few years down the road? Sure, but whether it's him or somebody else there will always be players available and every player for the foreseeable future will always be within the Yankees' means. There should be some long-term thinking, and the lack of it has been a weakness of the team's management for the past few years. But the team isn't in the position of having to think only long term -- they have the luxury of being able to both spend today and build for tomorrow, and may for once beginning to balance the two.
Ah but Hughes, Damon and Duncan would be a good deal and I am ok with that. Even Hughes and kennedy! Not Melky!
Good deal for the Yankees, obviously. I can say so-so random prospect for Santana would be a good deal. But again, think realistically. The Twins are not going to give up Santana for Hughes, Damon, and Duncan. That would be an absolutely horrible trade for the Twins.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
Not like New York couldn't buy Cabrera back in a few years if they trade him. Getting the best pitcher in the game on a team that lacks proven SP would benefit them greatly. I'm not a Yankess fan at all but if my team (mariners) were thinking of trading Adam Jones, Brendan Morrow and whoever else, I'd sure as **** be yelling for them to pull the trigger on it.
Quote from the ESPN Website -
"If the Red Sox get Santana," said an executive of one NL team that's grateful to be in the other league, "they might be the best team in the history of the frigging universe."
Also, sounds like the Yankees may be out of it......
Considering the Yankees still have a better offer on the table than the Red Sox, that's unlikely.
If the Yanks are out, so are the Bosox.
The Yankees are just trying to play hard ball with Minnesota, trying to get them to make a early decision.
Unless the Red Sox put Ellsbury and Lester in a deal together.Quote:
the Yankees still have a better offer on the table than the Red Sox,
I heard the Yankees may be upping the stakes by putting Jason Giambi in the deal - although the Twins might not like his new look:
Funny pic, but even funnier is the idea that including Giambi and his salary in the package would be "upping the stakes."Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
I heard that since the Yankees deadline passed the Mariners might try to make a play for Santana. If Bavasi pulls that off, I'd have to change my way of thinking about him. He isn't going to, but I wih he would. Morrow, Jones and Clement for Santana. SOLD!