2007 Gold Gloves

McDonald probably should have won the AL SS.

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Originally Posted by ohms_law

McDonald probably should have won the AL SS.

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Yeah, that's what he gets for sucking at the plate, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Yeah, that's what he gets for sucking at the plate, unfortunately.

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haha, the gold glove isn't about the glove, you have to hit inorder to get the award...what a joke! :eek:

Here are Gold Gloves based on Fielding Win Shares at the Hardball Times. Oddly enough, pitchers aren't assigned win shares in the Hardball Times system -- I don't know if it's because it's been omitted or it's because a pitcher's fielding contributes such a negligent portion of Fielding Win Shares that it's essentially zero.

C: K Johima, Mariners
1B: K Youkilis, Red Sox
2B: M Ellis, Athletics
SS: J Uribe, White Sox
3B: M Lowell, Red Sox
OF: C Crisp, Red Sox
OF: V Wells, Blue Jays
OF: C Granderson, Tigers

C: C Snyder, Diamondbacks
1B: D Lee, Cubs
2B: B Phillips, Reds
SS: T Tulowitzki, Rockies
3B: R Zimmerman, Nationals
OF: A Jones, Braves
OF: C Young, Diamondbacks
OF: C Beltran, Mets

--Pet

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it's because a pitcher's fielding contributes such a negligent portion of Fielding Win Shares that it's essentially zero.

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Essentially.

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Originally Posted by petrel

Here are Gold Gloves based on Fielding Win Shares at the Hardball Times. Oddly enough, pitchers aren't assigned win shares in the Hardball Times system -- I don't know if it's because it's been omitted or it's because a pitcher's fielding contributes such a negligent portion of Fielding Win Shares that it's essentially zero.

C: K Johima, Mariners
1B: K Youkilis, Red Sox
2B: M Ellis, Athletics
SS: J Uribe, White Sox
3B: M Lowell, Red Sox
OF: C Crisp, Red Sox
OF: V Wells, Blue Jays
OF: C Granderson, Tigers

C: C Snyder, Diamondbacks
1B: D Lee, Cubs
2B: B Phillips, Reds
SS: T Tulowitzki, Rockies
3B: R Zimmerman, Nationals
OF: A Jones, Braves
OF: C Young, Diamondbacks
OF: C Beltran, Mets

--Pet

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Seems pretty good.

Here is the same thing, based on Revised Zone Rating, which doesn't have catchers or pitchers:

1B: K Youkilis, Red Sox
2B: M Ellis, Athletics
SS: T Pena, Royals
3B: M Lowell, Red Sox
OF: M Cabrera, Yankees
OF: D DeJesus, Royals
OF: C Granderson, Tigers

1B: A Pujols, Cardinals
2B: B Phillips, Reds
SS: O Vizquel, Giants
3B: P Feliz, Giants
OF: A Jones, Braves
OF: E Byrnes, Diamondbacks
OF: C Beltran, Mets

Pretty close in agreement.

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Originally Posted by boomboom

haha, the gold glove isn't about the glove, you have to hit inorder to get the award...what a joke! :eek:

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Or be a Yankee.

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Originally Posted by robinhoodnik

Or be a Yankee.

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or a Red Sox!!! (couldn't resist)...btw: I thought the Red Sox are the new yankees. :eek:

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Originally Posted by boomboom

or a Red Sox!!! (couldn't resist)...btw: I thought the Red Sox are the new yankees. :eek:

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The Mariners are the A.L. version of the Phillies. :p

and the Angels are the new Red Sox...
;)

(actually, not really...)

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Originally Posted by ohms_law

and the Angels are the new Red Sox...
;)

(actually, not really...)

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They're gonna suck for 86 years and then start winning again? ;)

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Originally Posted by robinhoodnik

They're gonna suck for 86 years and then start winning again? ;)

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HAHA! NOW IS THE MARINERS CHANCE TO TAKE COMMAND OF THE DIVISION!!! ;)

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Would have liked to have seen Omar Vizquel win the gold glove as well, but haven't seen enough of Rollins' playing to vote against him. Vizquel is just fun to watch play the field.

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I would have to agree whole heartedly with this. Omar is amazing to watch. He makes bare handed plays look easy. Even if you hate the Giants, watch a game when he is playing.

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Originally Posted by robinhoodnik

The Mariners are the A.L. version of the Phillies. :p

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nah, that would be Tampa. ;)