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I was looking at the Milestones Transactions for the year and noticed a no-hitter. I looked up the player and sure enough, he was credited with the no hitter on his transactions page. I then went to his pitching record and noticed that he never started a game. I then went to the Calendar and noted that his team lost 3-2. I went to the box score and he never appeared in the game.
Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot??
Note also that Ross was credited with a non-existent complete game as well.
The 'game log" has an entry for the game even though Ross did not appear and threw no pitches.
Is Cincinnati your team? Are you playing games in PBP mode?
Someone reported earlier that substitutions made in PBP mode can cause this.
It looks like his team is Boston.
100% simulation. I also checked 1951. Moe Burtschy had a no hitter and a complete game that year without ever starting a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Cincy isn't even in my league. Except for a trade, i have had no dealings with them.
I went back and check the last season I just finished simming today and found there were 3 no hitters thrown since I updated to 10.31 from 10.29. Now 2 of them look legit, game log shows 9 ininngs pitched no runs allowed, no problem, but it shows Jorge Julio with a no-no, but check his yearly stats line for 2008.
I sim 1 game at a time, no pbp ever, I check the opposing pitcher, adjust my line-up and then sim that day.
Pretty good year for milestones, all since updated to 10.31: 3 no-no's and 3 hit for cycles.
I got this too. A game simmed between two computer games, and a pitcher got creditted with a no-hitter despite not pitching in the game. Gamelog shows the game with all 0's.
I'd be curious to see the Play-By-Play text.
Is it possible the reliever came in and then the winning run scored without him throwing a pitch? A balk perhaps, with a runner on third?
Without looking at the code, it could be doing something like awarding a no-hitter if all of the following are true:
1) The starter threw every pitch
2) The pitcher who finished the game allowed no hits
In ALMOST every situation, fact #1 would mean that the starter threw a complete game, and finished the game. So this logic would work. Except when a reliever comes in and allows the winning run.
I wasn't able to reproduce the bug, but it looks like I was right about how it could have been caused. I think I've fixed this in 10.31A by ensuring that no-hitters and complete games are only awarded when the starter truly pitches the whole game.
I checked the recap of the game it happened in in my game. Oakland's starter went 8.2 innings and allowed the winning run in the bottom of the 9th. The pitcher that got creditted with the no-hitter (and in his game log had a line full of 0's) never appeared in that game. He also does not appear in the box score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough
My relief pitcher came in with 2 outs in the ninth and a runner on first, that runner was caught stealing on the very next play and my reliever was credited with a no hitter without throwing a pitch, cuz playing in manager mode the pitcher's pitch count doesn't change on stolen bases or attempted steals
Ver. 10.31. Let's see where to go with this. Under "Milestones" Don McMahon of the NYY is credited with a no-hitter, but checking his log shows he pitched 1/3 of a inning in relief without allowing a hit and got credit for a save in a 3-2 Yankees win. Then looking at the box score McMahon is not listed in the pitching line and, finally, under the box score he is credited with a save, but it show (0) next to his name, indicating no save. Think that does it for this post.
the no hitter thing has been brought up already and has a fixed 10.31a next to it.
here's the link to it
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=154593
Thanks Reade. Went to the link and saw it was the very same "bug" you reported. I don't upload "unofficial" versions, so, I'll wait until the official version comes out, just hope the bug is a rare occasion, but it doesn't really affect the outcome of games, just stats, which are not accurate anyway with the incorrect earned run problem still arround.
I just started my 3rd season and have seen it only that one time, in my first season.
Also, if you do PBP, the 10.31A patch will S L O W down gameplay big time. I simmed several seasons with it and didn't see that problem, but that doesn't mean much as it was rarely seen before I think. I think Clay's post hinted that he "thought" it was fixed with this release.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAW
I have now finally seen this for the first time. It is version 10.31, NOT 10.31A. If it is in fact fixed in 10.31A, then hopefully they will either speed up the PBP engine or give the user the option to use the old engine, and I will wait until it becomes official to DL. In the meantime, on the off-chance it IS NOT fixed in 10.31A, I am posting several screen shots here to provide as much information as I can. Sorry, but I'm old school, and believe too much info is better than not enough. If any of this helps fix the problem, great. If not, oh well.
As you can see, a reliever was credited with a no-hitter in the transaction tab, and on his game log he was credited with a save. Pretty good considering according to the box score and recap he never appeared in the game. Anyway, I noted a couple of things in these screen shots and would like to point them out in case they are of any use to the programmers.
First of all, notice Claude Osteen's line in the boxscore. It shows he pitched 8 2/3 innings for the win. Hmm, where's the other 1/3 go then? Also, please note the blank line in the recap between the last two entries where the guy singled and then was picked off to end the game. I'm thinking this line is where Henry entered the game, and somehow this is where things go screwy. And finally, notice Henry's name does appear in the box score twice. Once in the lineup, and the second time for the save, though with the number (0) next to it.
I do hope this helps, as many of us would like to play long lasting dynasties with this game and not have our historical no-hitters cluttered with such nonsense. Thanks for any consideration in this matter.
Ok, so I stumbled across this really weird occurrence of a relief pitcher being credited with a no-hitter. The final score of the game was 4-2 and what's odd is that my team (the Indians) had only one pitcher of record who pitched all of 7.2 innings. Which means that there should have been at least 1 more out recorded somewhere. The game recap indicates that there was a 3rd out with Sheffield being caught stealing, but the out isn't recorded in any pitching line.
Now what's weird is that Cla Meredith never pitched in that game, so I can see, and yet if you look at the attached screenshot of his player profile, he's credited with a no-hitter. Not only was the game not even close to being a no-hitter on either side, but we lost.
http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profilexb9.jpg
Not really sure what to make of any of this but it's really weird. I've attached both the box score and the game recaps if those are of any help to people.
This was fixed in 10.31A.
Thread merged.
i can't find the old thread for this bug for the life of me, but anyways just another case of a reliever getting creditted w/ a no hitter when he hasn't started a game
It's been fixed. Threads merged.