Very fast fastballs [Fixed 10.25C]
I believe this is a bug or either it is something that is desired. But upon more simming MANY pitchers end up having fastball between 102 - 104 MPH. Nobody in real life throws a 104 MPH pitch and VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY few can reach 102 MPH. Maybe the power element for pitchers is developed far more than the control or movement. This probably has been discussed but I haven't seen it.
Re: 10.25 A: Very fast fastballs
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gem779
I believe this is a bug or either it is something that is desired. But upon more simming MANY pitchers end up having fastball between 102 - 104 MPH. Nobody in real life throws a 104 MPH pitch and VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY few can reach 102 MPH. Maybe the power element for pitchers is developed far more than the control or movement. This probably has been discussed but I haven't seen it.
Well, I'd just like to point out that the control/power/movement ratings are completely unrelated to velocity. The velocity is just a cosmetic thing. The Power rating controls the pitcher's ability to strike batters out.
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The velocity numbers are probably a bit to high though, generally.
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yea, nobody can throw 104 MPH and very few throw 102. I think it's pretty important since I and others use the velocity of the fastball in determining how good a pitcher is.
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gem779
yea, nobody can throw 104 MPH and very few throw 102. I think it's pretty important since I and others use the velocity of the fastball in determining how good a pitcher is.
Don't, it's not meaningful. Velocity is almost random, and there's nothing in the sim which actually uses it.
It still should be adjusted to appear realistic, however.
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Right. I'm not saying it's not off, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't affect the gameplay.
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ohms_law
Don't, it's not meaningful. Velocity is almost random, and there's nothing in the sim which actually uses it.
It still should be adjusted to appear realistic, however.
ok, however, since in real life velocity of the fastball is important I think it should have some importance in this game.
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I think eventually it and stuff will have a greater importance (and not so much OBA...it feels weird to have that statistic be one of the predicted stats when it's arguably very unpredictable in real life) but right now it's not, so I agree that this is a pretty minor bug.
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gem779
ok, however, since in real life velocity of the fastball is important I think it should have some importance in this game.
I'm pretty sure, but not THAT sure, that Clay does have in the code that generates players something that usually tends to give the stirkeout pitchers a higher velocity.
Even if it doesn't work that way, what affect would you want velocity to determine?
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HoustonGM
I'm pretty sure, but not THAT sure, that Clay does have in the code that generates players something that usually tends to give the stirkeout pitchers a higher velocity.
Even if it doesn't work that way, what affect would you want velocity to determine?
yea, i'd expect high velocity pitchers to typically have more strikeouts. All I'm saying is that there shouldn't be that many players with fastballs upwards of 101 MPH and such...that's it. and yea, i guess it's a minor bug compared to others on here, just something to look at in the future.
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yea, i'd expect high velocity pitchers to typically have more strikeouts.
That's what the Power ratings tells you.
In real life, fastball velocity is far from the only thing that earns pitchers strikeouts. As a matter of fact, there are tons of pitchers with nothing but velocity in the minors who never make the majors precisely because velocity doesn't earn strikeouts. Once batters adjust to the speed a pitcher is throwing at, most can hit the ball. When they do start hitting the flame throwers, they tend to go flying out of the park as well.
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ohms_law
That's what the Power ratings tells you.
In real life, fastball velocity is far from the only thing that earns pitchers strikeouts. As a matter of fact, there are tons of pitchers with nothing but velocity in the minors who never make the majors precisely because velocity doesn't earn strikeouts. Once batters adjust to the speed a pitcher is throwing at, most can hit the ball. When they do start hitting the flame throwers, they tend to go flying out of the park as well.
It's also worth noting that a lot of those high-powered pitchers who never make it out of the minors are due to lack of an ability to control such a fast pitch.